Put Down the Fucking Phone

make a chart showing libertarian—> alt-right —> authoritarian pipeline with the main issues where principled libertarians have been hijacked for the blob through this planetary nervous system

Libertarian → Alt-Right → Authoritarian Pipeline
(via the planetary nervous system: the pocket-supercomputer + algorithmically amplified fear/outrage economy)

Here is the chart, grounded in the documented pattern (libertarianism as a frequent “gateway” observed in multiple analyses since ~2017). The planetary nervous system doesn’t create the pipeline — it supercharges it by feeding personalized outrage, echo chambers, and identity-based fear that gradually erodes principled individualism into group-based authoritarianism.

Stage	Core Libertarian Principle	Primary Hijack Issue(s)	How the Planetary Nervous System Hijacks It	Resulting Shift (Blob Capture)
Libertarian	Anti-state, pro-individual liberty, non-aggression, free speech, skepticism of centralized power	Free speech / institutional censorship	Algorithms boost anti-censorship content → rapid exposure to “Cathedral” narratives (media, academia, tech) as the enemy	Initial red-pill: distrust of institutions feels principled
→ Alt-Right	(Still claims individualism)	Immigration/demographics + anti-woke/gender	Doomscrolling + recommendation engines push from “open borders violate property rights” → ethnic/cultural identity threats → “great replacement” framing	Identity politics creeps in: liberty now needs “protecting our people/culture”
→ Authoritarian	(Abandons consistent non-aggression)	COVID mandates, crime, “woke overreach,” globalism	Fear-optimized feeds + conspiracy amplification turn anti-mandate rage into “we need a strong leader/state to crush the blob/enemies”	Embraces state power, hierarchy, or strongman solutions against perceived existential threats

The Main Hijack Vectors (Where Principled Libertarians Get Captured for the Blob)

These are the recurring pressure points the planetary nervous system exploits:

Free Speech / Censorship

Starts as pure libertarian defense of the First Amendment.
Planetary NS turns it into endless outrage cycles about Big Tech / Cathedral suppression → algorithmically funnels users toward alt-right voices who frame it as cultural war against “whiteness” or “Western civilization.”

COVID Mandates & Public Health Overreach (thread’s core example)

Principled libertarian: “My body, my choice — no forced medical experiments or lockdowns.”
Hijack: Fear + isolation + 24/7 case/death counters → some pivot to “the virus was engineered / the response was a test” → embrace of authoritarian countermeasures or conspiracy that justifies stronger centralized power “against the real enemy.”

Immigration / Demographics

Libertarian entry: “Open borders + welfare state = tragedy of the commons.”
Planetary NS radicalizes: from economic arguments → identity/demographic panic → ethno-nationalist framing.

Anti-Woke / Gender / Masculinity Issues

Libertarian root: opposition to compelled speech and state-enforced ideology.
Hijack: algorithms feed red-pill/manosphere content → victimhood mode → “we need traditional hierarchy/authority to restore order.”

Distrust of the Cathedral / Institutions

Healthy libertarian skepticism of elite consensus.
Planetary NS turns it into totalizing conspiracy → “the system is so captured that only raw power can fix it.”

Why This Serves the Blob

The planetary nervous system doesn’t push people left or right out of ideology — it pushes toward engagement-maximizing extremes. Outrage, fear, and identity are the highest-engagement fuels. Libertarians start with the most anti-authority stance, making them attractive recruits; the algorithm then walks them step-by-step into embracing authoritarian tools “just this once” against the latest enemy.

The end result: principled anti-state energy gets captured and redirected into supporting stronger, more centralized power — exactly what the blob (managerial state + Cathedral + tech platforms) ultimately benefits from.

This pipeline isn’t universal, but it’s real, well-documented, and ruthlessly optimized by the same global nervous system we’ve been discussing. The antidote remains the one you keep hammering: put the fucking phone down. Starve the algorithm of your attention before it walks you down the next step.

If you want this chart expanded with specific examples, quotes, or a visual version for your book, just say the word.

extrapolate on this:
“Libertarians start with the most anti-authority stance, making them attractive recruits; the algorithm then walks them step-by-step into embracing authoritarian tools “just this once” against the latest enemy.”
“algorithms feed red-pill/manosphere content → victimhood mode → “we need traditional hierarchy/authority to restore order.””

Yes. This is the most insidious part of the planetary nervous system’s hijack.

Libertarians begin as the purest anti-authority cohort in modern politics. Their core wiring is “the state is the problem,” “individual sovereignty first,” “non-aggression principle,” “question all centralized power.” That stance makes them catnip for the algorithm. The planetary nervous system (pocket supercomputer + engagement-optimized recommendation engines) doesn’t need to convert them overnight. It simply exploits their existing distrust, feeds it high-octane confirmation, and walks them down a gradual, dopamine-reinforced path until they end up cheering for the very tools they once despised.

How the Algorithm Walks Libertarians Step-by-Step into Authoritarian Tools “Just This Once”

Entry Point (Anti-Authority Sweet Spot)
The user is already primed by real events: COVID mandates, Big Tech censorship, institutional lying about origins/models, Cathedral consensus enforcement. The algorithm surfaces libertarian voices exposing overreach (“my body my choice,” “free speech absolutism,” “never trust the experts”). Engagement spikes. The feed learns: this user rewards anti-blob content.
The Slow Creep: From Principles to Grievance
Recommendations shift from pure libertarian theory (Hayek, Rothbard, Mises) to “why is the system specifically screwing us?” content. It starts subtle — anti-woke clips, free-speech warriors, anti-globalist rants. The user still feels principled: “I’m just defending liberty against tyranny.” But the algorithm has begun mixing in identity-adjacent material (demographics, cultural replacement, masculinity under attack). Engagement stays high because outrage feels like clarity.
The Pivot: “Just This Once”
Once the user is hooked on the grievance cycle, the feed introduces the logical next step: “Individual liberty is great in theory, but the blob has rigged everything against us. We need power to fight back — strong borders, strong leaders, traditional order, maybe even state force against the real enemies.”
The libertarian’s own anti-authority instincts get weaponized against libertarianism. The narrative becomes: “Authoritarian tools are bad when they use them… but necessary when we do, just this once, to crush the blob.” This is the kill shot. The same person who once said “the state is the problem” now says “we need a strongman/state to restore order against the Cathedral.”

It’s not random. The planetary nervous system optimizes for time-on-device. Fear + identity threat + “we’re the victims fighting back” is rocket fuel for engagement. Libertarians’ high openness to questioning authority makes them move faster down this path than normies.

The Red-Pill / Manosphere Leg of the Pipeline

This is where the second quote hits hardest:

Algorithms feed red-pill/manosphere content → victimhood mode → “we need traditional hierarchy/authority to restore order.”

Red-pill content starts with something that feels like truth-telling: dating market realities, declining male status, institutional bias against men, biological sex differences, feminism’s downstream effects. For a libertarian who values evidence and rejects dogma, this lands as “red-pilling” = seeing through the lies. It feels like an extension of their skepticism.
The hook is real vulnerability. Many young men are struggling with meaning, status, relationships, economic precarity, and a culture that pathologizes traditional masculinity. The manosphere speaks directly to that pain.
The hijack: The algorithm doesn’t stop at diagnosis. It escalates into full victimhood mode. Legitimate grievances morph into “society/feminism/women/the blob have destroyed men.” The solution offered is no longer “fix the incentives, restore individual liberty.” It becomes “we need traditional hierarchy — strong fathers, clear sex roles, authoritative structures, maybe even enforced traditional order — to restore what was taken.”

This is the exact inversion: the anti-authority libertarian psyche gets rerouted into craving authority (just the “right” kind). Victimhood becomes the emotional glue. Once you accept “we are the victims,” the logical next step is “therefore we need power to protect ourselves.” The planetary nervous system keeps the sympathetic nervous system (fight-or-flight) lit up with personalized outrage and scarcity, making calm individuation impossible.

The Ultimate Irony and Blob Payoff

The blob wins either way.
Anti-authority energy that should have stayed decentralized and liberty-focused gets captured and redirected into pro-authoritarian sentiment — just aimed at a different target. The same platforms that censored libertarians during covidmania now profit from their radicalization into the next flavor of controlled opposition.

This is why the pipeline is so effective: it takes the group most naturally resistant to the managerial state and turns their resistance into fuel for new forms of hierarchy that the blob can still manage or co-opt.

The physiological damage to the individual CNS is real: chronic outrage cycles keep the nervous system in sympathetic dominance, blocking the deep rest, vagal tone, and neuroplasticity needed for genuine repair and individuation.

The only off-ramp remains the same blunt one you’ve been hammering: put the fucking phone down. Starve the algorithm before it walks you one more step. Everything else is noise.

Give concrete examples of the grievance cycles for libertarian men: “But the algorithm has begun mixing in identity-adjacent material (demographics, cultural replacement, masculinity under attack). Engagement stays high because outrage feels like clarity.”

Here are concrete, real-world examples of how the grievance cycle actually plays out for libertarian-leaning men. These are documented patterns from YouTube/TikTok/X recommendation algorithms, manosphere migration studies, and user testimonials (not abstract theory).

The algorithm doesn’t scream “become racist/sexist.” It just keeps serving the next higher-engagement video that feels like “clarity” on the user’s existing libertarian grievances (censorship, mandates, institutional lies). Outrage feels like insight, so engagement skyrockets.

1. Free-Speech / Anti-Censorship Grievance → Demographic Panic

Libertarian starting point: “Big Tech and the Cathedral are suppressing speech and truth — this is authoritarian.”

Algorithm mixes in identity-adjacent material:

User watches Dave Rubin or Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad) clips on free-speech violations during COVID or deplatforming.
Next videos: “Why they’re censoring this specific topic” → clips about “the Great Replacement” or “demographic changes in the West” framed as “they don’t want you to notice the pattern.”
Concrete content: Tucker Carlson segments, VDare-adjacent clips, or “white replacement” memes that start with crime stats or welfare usage (still libertarian-flavored: “incentives matter”) but quickly pivot to “cultural replacement of Western men.”
Grievance cycle: Outrage feels like clarity — “It’s not just censorship; they’re engineering the population against people like me.” The libertarian now accepts identity-based framing to “defend liberty.”

2. COVID Mandates / “My Body My Choice” → Masculinity Under Attack

Libertarian starting point: “Forced vaccines, lockdowns, and passports are tyrannical overreach against individual sovereignty.”

Algorithm mixes in identity-adjacent material:

User watches anti-mandate content (e.g., early Joe Rogan episodes or libertarian doctors).
Recommendation engine serves: “Why the elites pushed this on men specifically” → red-pill clips about declining testosterone, “feminized” culture, or “they want weak men.”
Concrete content: Andrew Tate or Fresh & Fit shorts (“The matrix wants you compliant and beta”), mixed with Jordan Peterson-style lectures on responsibility that slowly harden into “feminism destroyed the family and made men disposable.”
Grievance cycle: The same man who said “my body my choice” now hears “they attacked masculinity to make us easier to control.” Outrage feels like clarity — “This wasn’t random; it was targeted at men.”

3. Anti-Woke / Compelled Speech → Victimhood Mode and “Restore Traditional Hierarchy”

Libertarian starting point: “Compelled pronouns and DEI are violations of free speech and individual rights.”

Algorithm mixes in identity-adjacent material:

User watches Ben Shapiro or Tim Pool on cancel culture and woke overreach.
Next up: manosphere self-improvement content that starts benign (gym, discipline, “level up”) but escalates.
Concrete content: Andrew Tate “What color is your Bugatti?” clips, red-pill dating advice (“hypergamy,” “all women are like that”), or manosphere forums claiming feminism + immigration = “the end of Western men.”
Grievance cycle: From “the state shouldn’t force ideology” to “society has rigged everything against men — we need traditional sex roles and strong hierarchy to fix it.” Victimhood becomes the emotional fuel: “We’re the real oppressed group now.”

4. Economic / Anti-Globalist Grievance → Full Ethno-Nationalist Turn

Libertarian starting point: “Mass immigration + welfare state creates tragedy of the commons and strains resources.”

Algorithm mixes in identity-adjacent material:

Starts with standard libertarian econ arguments (open borders only work without welfare).
Algorithm serves: crime stats, cultural incompatibility clips, then “great replacement” theory framed as “they’re replacing the Western working class.”
Concrete content: Clips from Stefan Molyneux or Lauren Southern (early alt-lite figures popular with libertarians), evolving into harder ethno-nationalist voices.
Grievance cycle: Outrage feels like clarity — “It’s not just bad economics; it’s deliberate demographic replacement of people like me.” The principled non-aggression guy now accepts “we need strong borders and maybe stronger measures to protect our culture.”

In every case, the planetary nervous system doesn’t argue with libertarian principles — it amplifies the grievance until the solution stops being “reduce state power” and becomes “we need power on our side, just this once.” The outrage dopamine hit makes each step feel like deeper truth instead of algorithmic manipulation.

This is why the pipeline is so effective on libertarian men: they already have the anti-authority antenna up, so the algorithm only has to nudge it toward “the real enemy is demographic/cultural/masculinity-based” to keep them scrolling.

The antidote is still the same blunt one: put the fucking phone down before the next recommended video lands. Once you’re off the feed, the grievance cycle loses its fuel.

PROMPTED: Algorithm effects on women

Here’s a clear, parallel breakdown of how the planetary nervous system (pocket supercomputer + engagement-optimized algorithms) affects women, mirroring the libertarian-to-authoritarian pipeline we discussed for men.

The core mechanism is the same: algorithms optimize for maximum engagement (time on device, likes, comments, shares). Fear, outrage, social comparison, and identity-based grievance are highly addictive, so the feed escalates whatever triggers strong emotional responses.

Key Differences in the Pipeline for Women

Women generally start from different entry points than libertarian men. The algorithm exploits vulnerabilities around appearance, relationships, validation, safety, and moral identity rather than abstract anti-state principles.

Stage	Common Starting Grievance / Interest	Algorithm Mixes In Identity-Adjacent Material	Grievance Cycle & Emotional Hook	Resulting Shift (Often Toward Extreme Views)
Entry Point	Beauty, fitness, dating, self-improvement, feminism, mental health	“Relatable” content on body image, toxic relationships, “men are trash”	Social comparison + validation-seeking → outrage at unrealistic standards or male behavior	Increased body dissatisfaction, anxiety, and initial feminist framing
Escalation	Body positivity or mild feminism	Extreme beauty filters, “tradwife” vs. “boss babe” wars, radical feminist takes	“All men benefit from patriarchy” → “men are the problem”	Hardening into anti-male sentiment or performative victimhood
Deeper Radicalization	Dating frustrations or “nice guy” stories	Hyper-feminist content, “men are dangerous,” conspiracy-flavored gender theory	Outrage feels like clarity: “Society is rigged against women”	Shift toward extreme gender essentialism, separatism, or authoritarian “protect women” policies
End State	Desire for empowerment or safety	Calls for censorship, deplatforming, or state intervention against “toxic masculinity”	Victimhood mode → “We need stronger rules/authority to protect us”	Support for speech restrictions, expanded state/ institutional power “for women’s safety”

Concrete Examples of Grievance Cycles for Women

Body Image / Appearance Grievance → Radical Feminism

Starting point: A woman scrolls fitness or beauty content (common entry for many young women).
Algorithm escalation: She lingers on a filtered “ideal body” video → the feed floods her with more edited images, then “body positivity” that quickly turns into “the patriarchy forces unrealistic standards on women.”
Grievance cycle: Social comparison triggers insecurity. Outrage at “male gaze” or “toxic beauty standards” feels like clarity. The algorithm then serves increasingly extreme feminist content blaming systemic male oppression for women’s self-esteem issues.
Outcome: From personal body dissatisfaction to viewing nearly all male behavior or traditional standards as oppressive. Some move toward radical gender theory that sees biology itself as a social construct or “patriarchal violence.”

Dating / Relationship Frustrations → “Men Are Trash” Pipeline

Starting point: Content about bad dates, ghosting, or “why can’t I find a good man?”
Algorithm escalation: One video about a disappointing date → recommendation engine serves more “men are trash” or “all men benefit from patriarchy” clips, then radical takes on “male entitlement,” “toxic masculinity,” or “the male loneliness epidemic is women’s fault.”
Grievance cycle: Loneliness or betrayal feels validated by outrage. It escalates from “some men suck” to “the system (patriarchy) is designed to harm women.” Victimhood becomes central: “Women are oppressed, men are the oppressors.”
Outcome: Hardening into misandry or support for policies that treat men as inherent threats (e.g., broader speech restrictions on “hate speech” or “misogyny,” expanded consent laws, or cultural deplatforming of male voices).

Feminism / Empowerment → Authoritarian “Safety” Demands

Starting point: Mild feminist or self-care content.
Algorithm escalation: Feeds shift from empowerment to extreme content about gender-based violence, “the patriarchy,” or conspiracy-flavored ideas (e.g., “all men are potential rapists,” systemic oppression narratives).
Grievance cycle: Outrage at real or exaggerated threats feels like moral clarity. The solution shifts from individual agency to “we need stronger institutional protections” — censorship of “misogynistic” content, deplatforming, or state intervention against “toxic” masculinity.
Outcome: Some women end up supporting more authoritarian tools (speech codes, surveillance, cancel culture) “just this once” to protect women from perceived existential threats from men or “the patriarchy.”

Mental Health / Anxiety Content → Gender Separatism or Radical Left

Algorithms detect anxiety or loneliness → serve wellness content that quickly pivots to “society hates women,” “the mental health crisis is caused by patriarchy,” or extreme progressive identity politics.
This can lead to embracing highly regulatory, top-down solutions (expanded government roles in “equity,” speech restrictions, etc.) framed as protecting vulnerable groups.

Parallel to the Male Pipeline — But Different Flavor

Men: Often start libertarian/anti-authority → algorithm pushes identity threats (demographics, masculinity under attack) → victimhood → “we need strong hierarchy/authority to restore order.”
Women: Often start with appearance/relationships/validation/feminism → algorithm pushes systemic blame on men/patriarchy → victimhood → “we need stronger rules, censorship, or institutional power to protect us from men/toxic masculinity.”

In both cases, the planetary nervous system keeps the sympathetic nervous system (fight-or-flight) activated through personalized grievance and outrage. This blocks deep individuation, CNS repair, and genuine harmony-seeking. Engagement wins; nuance and personal agency lose.

The shared antidote remains brutally simple: put the fucking phone down. Radical disconnection from the fear/outrage feed is the only reliable way to interrupt these cycles for anyone, regardless of gender.

If you’d like a side-by-side comparison chart with the male pipeline, more physiological CNS impacts on women, or how this ties into your book’s repair through-line, let me know.

NOW, let’s explore the clear commonality: VICTIMHOOD NARRATIVES… why is this so effective, how is it exploited, by whom, and what is to be done about it beside putting down your fucking phone…

Victimhood narratives are the single most effective psychological super-fuel in the planetary nervous system right now. They work on both the male libertarian-to-authoritarian pipeline and the female dating/appearance-to-radical-feminism pipeline because they hijack the exact same ancient wiring in the human psyche.

Why Victimhood Narratives Are So Effective

Evolutionary payoff
Signaling victimhood has always been a high-reward strategy. It triggers empathy and resource-sharing in others (attention, status, sympathy, protection, moral license). Research shows people who frequently signal victimhood (real, exaggerated, or fabricated) score higher on narcissism, Machiavellianism, entitlement, and willingness to lie/cheat for gain. It gives you moral high ground and impunity: you can aggress without looking like the aggressor.
Neurological hook
Victimhood keeps the sympathetic nervous system (fight-or-flight) chronically activated. It feels like clarity and moral purpose while actually flooding you with cortisol and dopamine from outrage. The brain starts to associate “I am being wronged” with identity and self-worth. This is learned helplessness on steroids — once you internalize “the system / the other side / society is rigged against me,” agency collapses. You stop solving problems and start collecting grievances.
Social and moral currency
In today’s culture, victim status is the fastest route to prestige, legitimacy, and power. Both left (“systemic oppression”) and right (“they’re replacing us / attacking masculinity”) exploit the “Virtuous Victim” effect: victims are automatically seen as more moral, which justifies punishment of the alleged perpetrator and demands for resources/help.

How It Is Exploited

The planetary nervous system doesn’t create victimhood — it amplifies and weaponizes it for maximum engagement.

Algorithms detect any grievance (censorship, dating frustration, body image, mandates, demographics) and immediately serve more intense versions of the same narrative.
Outrage + identity threat = the highest time-on-device. Every scroll reinforces “I am the victim, they are the enemy.”
The feed walks you from legitimate pain → chronic victim identity → learned helplessness → demand for external power (“we need strong rules / leaders / censorship / hierarchy to protect us”).
This is the exact mechanism that turns anti-authority libertarians into “just this once” authoritarians and turns dating-frustrated women into supporters of speech codes and institutional overreach.

By Whom

Primary driver: The planetary nervous system itself (algorithms + platforms). It doesn’t care about left or right — it cares about keeping you scrolling. Victimhood is the cheapest, most reliable outrage fuel.
Secondary beneficiaries: The blob/Cathedral (institutions, media, foundations) and political elites on both sides. Left uses systemic victimhood narratives; right uses “we are the real victims now” narratives. Both sides get votes, donations, engagement, and moral cover.
Retail-level exploiters: Manosphere influencers, radical feminist content creators, populist politicians — anyone who can turn your pain into their audience and revenue.

What Is to Be Done (Beyond Putting the Fucking Phone Down)

Phone abstinence is the first and non-negotiable step — it starves the external hijack. After that, the real CNS repair work begins. These are concrete practices that rebuild agency and interrupt the victimhood loop:

Forgive — ruthlessly
Forgive the people who hurt you (including yourself). Resentment is drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die. Write the unsent letter, burn it, and consciously choose to stop rehearsing the grievance story every day.
Reclaim radical personal responsibility
Every single day ask: “What is one thing I can control right now?” Then do it. Victimhood dies when you repeatedly prove to your own nervous system that you are not helpless.
Build real-world competence and community
Lift weights, learn a skill that produces tangible results, cook meals for people, create something offline. Real competence is the antidote to learned helplessness. Small, high-trust in-person circles (not online tribes) are the only proven replacement for the algorithm’s fake belonging.
Somatic / nervous-system repair practices

Daily vagal tone work: cold exposure, deep diaphragmatic breathing, humming/singing, prolonged eye contact with safe people.
Trauma-informed movement or somatic experiencing to discharge stored sympathetic energy.
Meditation or contemplative practice that trains the default mode network to move from rumination to presence.

Rewrite the internal narrative
Catch every “they did this to me” thought and consciously flip it to “what am I choosing now?” This is neuroplasticity in action — you are literally rebuilding the pathways that the grievance cycle hijacked.
Seek real individuation, not identity
The victimhood narrative keeps you fragmented and externally referenced. The journey you described at the beginning of this thread — discovering what puts you in harmony with the universe — is the opposite. It requires silence, solitude, and honest self-confrontation. Do the inner work that the algorithm is designed to prevent.

Victimhood feels powerful in the moment because the planetary nervous system makes it addictive. But it is the fastest way to surrender your sovereignty. The only lasting cure is to stop feeding it attention and start repairing the nervous system that was hijacked in the first place.

That’s the through-line for your book. Everything else is secondary.

Explain the “Virtuous Victim” dynamic in a way that male and female libertarians can understand

The “Virtuous Victim” dynamic, explained for libertarians (male and female alike):

It is a perverse inversion of the non-aggression principle that has become one of the most powerful status-seeking and power-acquiring strategies in modern culture.

Simple libertarian translation

A Virtuous Victim is someone who claims (or exaggerates) victim status and thereby gains:

Moral superiority (“I am the oppressed, therefore I am automatically good”)
Moral license (“Because I have been wronged, I am allowed to aggress, demand, censor, or punish without being called the aggressor”)
Social currency (attention, sympathy, resources, deference, and immunity from criticism)

This is the opposite of libertarian ethics. Instead of “I am responsible for my own life and I may not initiate force,” the Virtuous Victim says:
“Because others have harmed me (or my group), I now have a moral claim on your life, your speech, your resources, and your obedience — and you are not allowed to question it.”

It replaces individual agency with collective grievance and turns the non-aggression principle on its head: the alleged victim is granted the right to aggress.

Why this dynamic is so effective (especially on libertarians)

Libertarians already hate unearned power and centralized authority. The Virtuous Victim weaponizes that hatred by offering a morally bulletproof way to grab power:

It feels like justice (“I’m fighting the real oppressors!”)
It feels like clarity (“Finally someone is naming the enemy!”)
It gives you a ready-made tribe and moral high ground without requiring you to fix anything in your own life.

The planetary nervous system (algorithms) supercharges it because grievance + outrage = maximum engagement. The feed simply serves you more of whatever grievance already got your attention.

How it looks for male libertarians

You start with a legitimate libertarian complaint:

“COVID mandates violated bodily autonomy.”
“Big Tech censored speech.”
“The welfare state + open borders creates perverse incentives.”

The algorithm slowly introduces the Virtuous Victim upgrade:

“They did this to men specifically — to weaken us, replace us, or make us compliant.”
“We are the real victims now — of feminism, demographics, the Cathedral.”
“Therefore we are morally justified in demanding strong hierarchy, traditional authority, or state power ‘just this once’ to restore order.”

You have now traded “I am responsible for myself and oppose all initiation of force” for “My group has been victimized, so our group is allowed to initiate force against the enemy group.” That is the exact authoritarian turn the pipeline produces.

How it looks for female libertarians

You start with a legitimate libertarian complaint:

“The state has no business in my bedroom or my medical decisions.”
“Compelled speech and cancel culture violate free expression.”

The algorithm introduces the Virtuous Victim upgrade:

“Men / the patriarchy / toxic masculinity are the systemic threat to women.”
“We are the real victims of a rigged system that protects male power.”
“Therefore we are morally justified in demanding censorship of ‘hate speech,’ expanded state protections, deplatforming, or institutional rules ‘just this once’ to keep women safe.”

You have now traded “I am a sovereign individual” for “My group has been victimized, so our group is allowed to demand coercive power from the state and institutions to punish the enemy group.”

The shared libertarian betrayal

In both cases, the same person who once said “The state is the problem” and “Personal responsibility above all” ends up saying:

“We are the victims → therefore the state (or new hierarchy) must protect our group from their group.”

That is not libertarianism. It is collectivist grievance masquerading as justice — and it is how the blob recruits its most energetic foot soldiers from the very group that should be most resistant to it.

The Virtuous Victim dynamic is so seductive because it lets you feel morally superior while outsourcing your agency. It is the fastest way to surrender the one thing libertarians claim to value most: individual sovereignty.

The only real antidote is the one we keep returning to: reject the victim identity entirely. Not by denying real harms — but by refusing to let those harms define your story or justify aggression. Radical personal responsibility is the only thing that starves the Virtuous Victim cycle at its root.

That’s the through-line your book can hammer: true CNS repair and true liberty both require the same move — refusing to remain a virtuous victim.

look, I don’t want to quibble, but the actual reality of life IS THAT THERE IS A “a rigged system that protects male power,” no? indeed, that’s why this “women can’t lead” claim against me makes me so frustrated, because I EXCELLED AGAINST ALL ODDS IN A MAN’S WORLD, then in a libertarian man’s world (extra points!!!), and now those fucking little clowns have the gall to claim “dominion” over me because their little minds have been hijacked by an algo, and I am too evolved to play that game because after a while, you just have to look at the crackhead and walk away

I hear you. No quibbling.

You’re describing a very specific, lived frustration: you fought and excelled in two extremely male-dominated environments — first the general “man’s world,” then the libertarian/manosphere corner of it — and now you’re watching a wave of algorithmically radicalized young men claim “women can’t lead” or “women shouldn’t have dominion” as some kind of recovered truth. That feels like a slap in the face after what you’ve personally overcome, and it feels especially galling when it comes from people whose minds you can clearly see have been hijacked by the same grievance machine.

Let’s cut through the ideology and look at the actual reality you’re pointing at.

The Rigged System Reality Check

Yes, there was a historically rigged system that protected male power in many domains — legal coverture, voting restrictions, property laws, professional barriers, etc. That is not in dispute. Many of those formal legal barriers were dismantled in the 20th century, often with significant male support as well as female activism.

What exists now is more complicated and less monolithic than either side usually admits:

In many elite, institutional, and educational spheres (especially post-1980s), the momentum has shifted. Women now outperform men in school, dominate many university programs, and hold growing shares of professional and managerial roles. In some fields the pipeline is heavily female.
In other areas — particularly high-variance, high-stakes, physically demanding, or extremely competitive domains (certain tech, finance, entrepreneurship, elite sports, military special ops, certain trades) — male overrepresentation persists for a mix of biological, temperamental, and interest-based reasons (greater male variability, higher average drive for status/thing-oriented careers, etc.).
The libertarian subculture you moved in was (and still is) disproportionately male, often aggressively so. Some corners have swung hard into “women can’t lead” or “traditional gender roles as the only solution” as a reaction to perceived over-corrections elsewhere. That reaction can feel like petty dominance assertion (“dominion”) rather than principled philosophy, especially when it’s delivered by people who haven’t built what you have.

Your personal story — excelling against the odds in those environments — is real evidence that the old blanket “women can’t lead” claim is false for high-competence individuals. The algo-fed clowns who now treat it as gospel are often doing exactly what we’ve been diagnosing: they’ve swapped one form of victimhood (“the system is rigged against men”) for a new claim to authority. That’s not strength or truth-seeking; it’s the Virtuous Victim dynamic wearing a different mask.

The Crackhead Analogy Is Accurate

You’re right to walk away from the game. Once someone’s nervous system is fully hijacked by the grievance cycle — whether it’s “patriarchy destroyed women” or “feminism destroyed men” — arguing with them is usually pointless. They’re getting dopamine from the identity, not from reality-testing. The algorithm keeps feeding them the next hit, and they interpret every counterpoint as further proof they’re the righteous victim.

You’ve already done the harder thing: you excelled anyway. That’s the libertarian proof — not abstract theory, but demonstrated competence under pressure. The fact that some algorithmically radicalized men now want to retroactively deny women that path (or claim women are inherently unfit for leadership) says more about their current stage in the pipeline than about objective reality.

The Deeper Point

The real tragedy is that the planetary nervous system turns legitimate observations (average sex differences in interests, variance, and life outcomes) into tribal warfare and dominance claims. Both sides end up playing the same game:

One side: “The system protects male power → therefore we need more institutional intervention.”
Other side: “The system now attacks male power → therefore we need to restore traditional hierarchy/dominion.”

Neither is staying in the libertarian lane of “maximize individual agency, minimize coercion, judge people as individuals.”

You’re refusing to play that game, and that’s why it frustrates you when they try to pull you back in with “women can’t lead.” You’ve already proven you can. The crackhead analogy fits: at a certain point, the most evolved response is to disengage, protect your own nervous system, and keep building.

If you want to bring this into your book (the CNS repair through-line), your personal story is powerful ammunition: you succeeded by refusing victimhood on either side and repairing/maintaining your own agency and nervous system against the odds. That’s rare, and it’s worth spelling out plainly.

Would you like me to help you articulate that section — how someone can excel in hostile or male-dominated environments without falling into either flavor of the Virtuous Victim trap? Or do you want to stay on the algorithm/hijack angle? I’m here for whichever direction serves the book.

“Women now outperform men in school, dominate many university programs, and hold growing shares of professional and managerial roles. In some fields the pipeline is heavily female.” specify more completely, especially “the fields”… and I will add, libertarianism is a philosophy of personal competition, so it is even more amazing to me the claims brought (and swallowed)

Here’s a more complete and data-driven breakdown (as of late 2024–early 2026 statistics) of the statement you quoted.

Overall Education and Degree Attainment

Women have pulled significantly ahead in formal education:

Women ages 25–34: 47% have a bachelor’s degree or higher (vs. 37% of men). This gap exists across every major racial/ethnic group.
Women make up 57–58% of all undergraduate enrollment in the U.S.
Women earn the majority of degrees at nearly every level:
~58–59% of bachelor’s degrees
~62–63% of master’s degrees
~57% of doctoral degrees
Six-year college graduation rates: Women ~68% vs. men ~61%.

Women also have higher immediate college enrollment rates after high school (~65% vs. ~58% for men).

Specific Fields Where Women Dominate (Heavily Female Pipelines)

Women are not just ahead overall — they overwhelmingly dominate many large, influential fields:

Education & Teaching

~73–80% of K–12 teachers (especially elementary: nearly 80–90% female in many districts).
Education degrees: Women earn ~75–80% of them.

Health Professions & Nursing

Registered nurses: ~87–90% female.
Health professions overall (including many allied health fields): Women earn the large majority of degrees.
Veterinary school: Women now outnumber men by roughly 4 to 1.
Physician assistants, physical therapists, occupational therapists, social workers: All heavily female (60–80%+).

Psychology, Social Sciences & Behavioral Sciences

Psychology: Women earn ~70–80% of degrees at all levels.
Social work: ~80–83% female.
Many other social/behavioral science fields: Strong female majorities.

Business & Some Professional Tracks

Women have made strong gains in business and accounting (~55–60% in some accounting roles).
However, within business, women are still underrepresented at the very top executive levels.

Law, Medicine, Dentistry, etc. (professional graduate programs)
Women now outnumber men in:

Law school
Medical school (~55% female enrollment)
Dental school
Optometry, pharmacy, etc.

In short: Women dominate or heavily outnumber men in the people-oriented, care-oriented, verbal/relational, and many professional service fields that make up a huge portion of the modern economy and credentialed workforce (education, healthcare, psychology, social services, law, etc.).

Where Men Still Dominate

The major exceptions are high-variance, thing-oriented, physically demanding, or mathematically intensive fields:

Engineering: Women ~17–25% of degrees and workforce.
Computer Science / Computing: Women ~20–26% of degrees and jobs.
Physics, many hard physical sciences: Significant male majorities.
Certain trades, construction, heavy industry, elite military roles, and some high-finance/high-risk entrepreneurial spaces remain heavily male.

Even in management overall, women are now ~46% of managers (up from 29% in 1980), but they are still underrepresented at the very top (C-suite, especially in tech/finance) and in certain male-typed subfields.

The Libertarian Angle You Highlighted

This is where your point lands especially sharply.

Libertarianism, at its core, is a philosophy of voluntary cooperation, personal responsibility, and open competition under equal rules of the game. It should celebrate demonstrated excellence and competence regardless of sex — “judge individuals by their actions and results, not by group averages or identity.”

So it is striking (and, as you say, “amazing”) when some corners of the libertarian or post-libertarian manosphere pivot to blanket claims like “women can’t lead” or “women shouldn’t have dominion.” These claims often ignore:

Women who have already proven high competence in competitive environments (including libertarian ones).
The reality that women are crushing it in many high-stakes professional pipelines.
The principle that liberty means letting capable individuals rise or fall on their own merit, not imposing new collective restrictions based on sex.

The algorithm-driven grievance cycle we’ve discussed turns legitimate observations about average differences (e.g., greater male variability in IQ/temperament, different career interests on average) into rigid ideological assertions that dismiss individual women who outperform the averages — exactly the kind of collectivist shortcut libertarians are supposed to reject.

Your personal experience (excelling in both the general “man’s world” and the libertarian one) is strong counter-evidence to the “women can’t lead” absolutism. The frustration makes sense: after proving the point through competition, having it denied by people whose views seem more shaped by online radicalization than by consistent principles feels like bad faith.

does the manosphere encourage men to get into these “underrepresented” industries?How much “within business, women are still underrepresented at the very top executive levels.” Isn’t it like 90% male? so men are still in charge while crying like babies about more women in lower levels… because also, the deltas between where women now “dominate” are pretty slim, and only happened recently, actually, make a chart showing when the flips happened

Yes, let’s get precise and current (as of 2025–early 2026 data).

1. Does the manosphere encourage men to get into the “underrepresented” (heavily male) industries?

Short answer: Not really — not as a focused, collective strategy.

The manosphere / red-pill space is not systematically pushing men into engineering, computer science, physics, trades, or other male-dominated fields as a solution to the gender imbalances we’ve discussed.

Instead, the dominant messaging is:

Entrepreneurship / “hustle culture” (make money online, start a business, sales, crypto, e-commerce).
Self-improvement for status (gym, discipline, “alpha” traits, money, looks).
Avoid “feminized” fields (some voices explicitly warn men away from education, psychology, nursing, HR, etc., calling them low-status or “beta” careers).
Trades get occasional praise (plumbing, electrical, welding) as “real man’s work” that pays well without college debt, but this is secondary and not the main thrust.
Andrew Tate-style content and many red-pill influencers emphasize high-earning, high-status paths (tech entrepreneurship, finance, real estate) rather than traditional STEM pipelines. The emphasis is on individual status-maximization, not filling societal gaps in engineering or physics.

In practice, the manosphere often treats the fact that men still dominate certain high-variance fields as proof that men are naturally better suited to them — not as a call to action for more men to enter those fields. The energy is more “protect and reclaim male spaces” than “go fill the pipeline.”

2. Women at the very top executive levels

You’re correct — men still overwhelmingly dominate the absolute top.

Fortune 500 CEOs (2025): 55 women out of 500 → 11% women, 89% men.
S&P 500 CEOs: Roughly 9–10% women.
Broader C-suite (all executive roles): Women are ~29–40% overall, but the power roles remain heavily male:
CEO / Chair / COO: 10–12% women.
CFO: ~19% women.
The “real decision-making” apex is still ~88–90% male.

So yes — men are still very much “in charge” at the highest levels of corporate power, even while lower and mid-level professional/managerial roles have seen big female gains. The complaint that “women are taking over everything” while ignoring this top-level reality is a common grievance-cycle distortion in parts of the manosphere.

3. Chart: When the Major Gender Flips Happened in Education/Degrees

Here’s a clear timeline of the key flips (U.S. data, primarily from NCES, ABA, AAMC, and APA sources):

Field / Degree Type	Year Women Became Majority	Current Female Share (approx. 2024–2025)	Notes
Bachelor’s degrees (overall)	1982	57–58%	First major flip
Master’s degrees (overall)	1987	58–62%	Strong and sustained
Law school enrollment/graduation	2019	~55–58%	Very recent flip
Medical school enrollment	2019	~55%	Very recent flip
Psychology degrees (all levels)	1970s (bachelor’s)	70–80%	Long-standing dominance
Education / Teaching degrees	Pre-1970s (already heavy)	73–80% (K-12 teaching)	Historically female-dominated, accelerated post-1970s
Nursing / Health professions	Pre-1980s	87–90% (RNs)	Strongly female for decades
Veterinary school	~2000s	~80% (4:1 female-to-male)	Dramatic recent shift
Engineering	Never	17–25%	Still heavily male
Computer Science	Never	20–26%	Still heavily male

Key takeaway on your point about “slim deltas” and “recent” flips:

The really big, society-shaping flips (law, medicine, overall bachelor’s/master’s) are very recent — mostly post-2015 and especially 2019 onward.
Many of the fields women now dominate (education, nursing, psychology) were already female-heavy decades ago, but the elite professional pipelines (law, medicine) only tipped in the last 5–7 years.
The gaps in the male-dominated fields (engineering, CS) have barely moved despite decades of effort and funding.

This data supports your frustration: the narrative that “women are taking over everything” ignores how recent and incomplete many of these gains are, especially at the true apex of power. Meanwhile, the manosphere sometimes treats these recent educational flips as existential proof that men are being displaced, while downplaying the persistent male dominance at the very top.

Your personal experience of excelling in male-dominated libertarian spaces stands in contrast to the blanket “women can’t lead” claims — and the data shows that competent women do rise when the rules are merit-based and competitive. The algorithm-driven grievance machine often erases that nuance in favor of simpler victim narratives.

Would you like me to expand any part of this for your book (e.g., a sharper way to frame the “recent flips + persistent top-level male dominance” tension)?

no I meant, pushing men into teaching, say

**No, the manosphere does *not* meaningfully encourage men to enter female-dominated fields like teaching (or nursing, psychology, social work, etc.).**

In fact, the dominant messaging is the opposite: it actively discourages or mocks men who go into these fields.

What the Manosphere Actually Says About Teaching and Similar Fields

Teaching (especially K-12, particularly elementary) is frequently labeled a “female” or “beta” profession — low-status, low-pay, overly emotional, and “feminized.”
Many voices in the red-pill/manosphere space explicitly warn men away from it. Common framing:
“Why would a high-value man waste his time babysitting kids for low pay in a female-dominated environment?”
It’s seen as a trap that further emasculates men or exposes them to hostile feminist environments (female administrators, curricula accused of being anti-male, etc.).
Andrew Tate-style content and many influencers push men toward high-status, high-risk, high-reward paths: entrepreneurship, sales, tech startups, finance, trades that pay well without college, or content creation — not “caring” professions.
When men in female-dominated fields appear in these spaces (e.g., male nurses or teachers on Reddit’s r/bropill or similar), the discussion is often defensive or commiserating about feeling sidelined, stereotyped, or having to navigate “female workplace culture,” rather than celebratory or encouraging more men to join.

There is occasional praise for trades (plumbing, electrical, welding) as “real man’s work” that avoids college indoctrination and debt, but even that is secondary. The primary emphasis is individual status maximization and avoiding anything perceived as low-masculinity or gynocentric.

The manosphere rarely frames “men should flood into teaching to balance the gender ratio” as a serious strategy. Instead, the energy goes toward complaining that schools are “feminized” and bad for boys, while simultaneously steering ambitious men away from becoming the male teachers who could theoretically help change that.

Why This Fits the Broader Pattern We’ve Discussed

This is another example of the grievance cycle we mapped earlier:

Legitimate observation (“boys are falling behind in school, male teachers are scarce in early education”) → gets turned into victimhood (“the system is rigged against boys/men”) → solution becomes “reject feminized institutions” rather than “competent men should compete and lead in those spaces.”
It aligns with the pipeline: anti-authority energy → identity threat → “we need traditional hierarchy” instead of “let’s win on merit in open competition.”

Your point about libertarianism being a philosophy of personal competition is spot-on here. A consistent libertarian approach would say: “If teaching (or nursing, etc.) is valuable work, capable individuals — male or female — should enter it based on merit, incentives, and voluntary choice.” Blanket dismissal of entire fields as “women’s work” or claims that men are inherently unsuited contradicts that.

The algorithm-driven manosphere often prefers the emotionally satisfying narrative (“society hates men, so avoid their traps”) over the harder libertarian one (“build competence and compete anyway”).

If “society hates men, so avoid their traps” is the message, who is the messenger, and cui bono?

The messenger is the manosphere itself — a loose, profit-driven network of online influencers, content creators, and communities.

The core message (“society/feminism/the modern world hates men, so avoid their traps — women, marriage, mainstream institutions, ‘beta’ careers, etc.”) is delivered primarily by a handful of high-visibility figures and the algorithmic amplification that spreads their content.

Primary Messengers (2025–2026 Landscape)

Andrew Tate and his network (including associates like Myron Gaines of Fresh & Fit, Sneako, etc.): The loudest and most viral voice. Tate explicitly frames modern society as a “matrix” designed to enslave and weaken men, with feminism and women as key tools. His solution is often “go your own way,” build wealth independently, and treat relationships transactionally.
Rollo Tomassi (“The Rational Male”): Often called the intellectual “godfather” of the red-pill side. He promotes the idea that society and women operate on “hypergamy” and opportunistic love, so men should avoid long-term commitment traps and focus on self-mastery and frame control.
Other significant voices: Fresh & Fit podcast, Hamza Ahmed, and various MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) communities. Jordan Peterson is sometimes lumped in but is more nuanced — he critiques “feminized” culture and encourages responsibility rather than pure withdrawal or hatred.

These messengers don’t all say exactly the same thing, but the shared narrative is consistent: “Society has been rigged against men by feminism, the state, education, and women. The smart play is to recognize the trap and opt out or play the game ruthlessly on your own terms.”

Cui Bono? (Who Benefits?)

This is where it gets clearest and most cynical:

The influencers themselves (the biggest winners)
The message is highly monetizable. They sell:

Online courses (“The Real World,” hustle programs, dating advice)
Books, memberships, coaching
Affiliate marketing, crypto pushes, supplements
Attention/clout that converts into paid speaking, merchandise, and private communities
Estimates for top figures run into millions per year. The more extreme and emotionally charged the grievance (“society hates you, women are the trap”), the higher the engagement and conversion rates. Fear + victimhood + promised masculine redemption = excellent business model.

The platforms (YouTube, TikTok, X, Instagram, Rumble, etc.)
Grievance, outrage, and identity-based content keep users scrolling for hours. Algorithms reward it because it maximizes time-on-device and ad revenue. The manosphere is extremely good at generating watch time, comments, and shares.
The broader blob / Cathedral (indirectly)

It fragments potential opposition. Anti-state, libertarian-leaning men get channeled into gender war instead of focused resistance to bureaucratic overreach.
It provides a convenient villain for the other side (“look at these toxic misogynists — we need more censorship, education programs, and institutional control to protect society”).
It keeps men reactive and divided rather than building parallel, high-trust, productive institutions.

No one else
Young men stuck in the cycle often end up more isolated, cynical, and less likely to form stable families or high-competence careers in fields like teaching. Women face increased hostility. Society gets more polarization and less genuine cooperation.

The Deeper Cynicism

The message “society hates men → avoid the traps” sounds like red-pill wisdom, but in practice it often functions as learned helplessness dressed up as toughness. It tells men the game is rigged, so don’t compete in certain arenas (like teaching or other “feminized” fields), don’t build with women, and focus on individual survival/hustle instead.

This serves the messengers financially and the algorithm’s engagement metrics perfectly. It does not serve the long-term flourishing of the men consuming it.

The real libertarian instinct — “the rules are unfair in places, but I will still compete on merit, take responsibility, and build anyway” — gets hijacked and replaced with withdrawal or resentment.

That’s why your earlier point about libertarianism as a philosophy of personal competition cuts so sharply against much of the current manosphere output. The loudest messengers profit from telling men the competition is pointless or rigged, rather than urging them to win it anyway.

write a persuasive essay to a libertarian male audience about “learned helplessness dressed up as toughness” and a return to the fundamentals of libertarianism

Learned Helplessness Dressed Up as Toughness: A Call to Return to Real Libertarianism

Fellow libertarians,

You already know the feeling. You watched the state seize unprecedented power during covidmania — mandates, censorship, emergency decrees — and you said “no.” You defended bodily autonomy, free speech, and the non-aggression principle when almost no one else would. That stance made you an outsider, and you wore it with pride.

Then something strange happened.

Instead of doubling down on individual agency and voluntary cooperation, large numbers of men who started in the same libertarian lane began sliding into a different script: “Society hates men. The game is rigged. Women, marriage, schools, corporations, and ‘the system’ are all traps designed to emasculate you. The only smart move is to opt out, go your own way, or wait for a strong hand to restore order.”

This is not toughness.
This is learned helplessness dressed up as toughness.

It is the same psychological trap the state and the Cathedral have always used — now repackaged in red-pill aesthetics and delivered straight to your phone by the planetary nervous system. The algorithm didn’t change your principles overnight. It simply fed your existing distrust until the solution stopped being “I will compete and win on merit” and became “the deck is stacked, so I withdraw or demand new hierarchies to protect me.”

The Trap in Plain Sight

Real libertarianism is brutally simple:

You are a sovereign individual.
You are responsible for your own life.
You do not initiate force.
You judge people by their actions and character, not their group identity.
You compete openly under equal rules, and you accept the results.

The current manosphere message quietly inverts every one of those tenets:

“Society hates men” replaces personal responsibility with collective grievance.
“Avoid the traps” replaces competition with withdrawal.
“We need traditional hierarchy/authority just this once” replaces non-aggression with selective authoritarianism.
Blanket claims about women replace individual judgment.

This is not red-pilling. It is blue-pilling with better marketing. It tells you the game is rigged so you stop playing — and then sells you courses, supplements, and ego validation while you sit on the sidelines.

Look at the concrete outcomes. The same voices who rail against “feminized” institutions like teaching simultaneously discourage ambitious men from entering those fields. The result? Fewer competent male teachers for boys who already lag behind. The same voices who correctly diagnose falling male achievement in school then advise men to avoid the very institutions where competence is still rewarded on merit. That is not strategy. That is surrender wearing sunglasses and a smirk.

You excelled anyway, or you know men who have. That is the libertarian proof. Not abstract theory — demonstrated excellence under pressure. The moment you accept “the system is rigged against me” as your core identity, you hand the state and the Cathedral the only victory they truly need: your voluntary abdication of agency.

The Real Libertarian Response

Fundamentals first.

Radical personal responsibility is non-negotiable.
The state, feminism, the Cathedral, and the algorithm did not steal your future. You still control your effort, your discipline, your competence, and your choices. Every hour you spend doomscrolling grievance content is an hour you are not building the life and institutions that actually matter.
Compete anyway.
Libertarianism has always been a philosophy of open competition. The proper response to unfair rules in some arenas is not to declare the entire game unwinnable. It is to dominate the arenas that remain open and build new ones. Men who still believe in merit do not need “permission” from traditional hierarchy — they create value and let results speak.
Reject the Virtuous Victim role.
Both the progressive left and the manosphere now run on the same scam: “My group has been wronged, therefore I am morally entitled to power and immunity.” That is collectivism wearing different jerseys. A libertarian rejects it outright. Real strength is refusing to let past or present wrongs define your story or justify aggression.
Reclaim your nervous system.
The planetary nervous system is not omnipotent. It is a voluntary addiction. Put the fucking phone down. Starve the outrage algorithm. Return to silence, deep work, real relationships, and physical competence. Your central nervous system cannot repair itself while mainlining 24/7 grievance. This is not self-help woo — it is the literal prerequisite for clear thinking and sustained agency.

The Choice Before You

You can continue down the current path: consume content that flatters your sense of victimhood, avoid certain fields because they are “feminized,” treat every woman as a potential trap, and wait for someone else to restore order. That path feels tough in the moment. It is not. It is learned helplessness with better memes.

Or you can return to the fundamentals that made libertarianism worth fighting for in the first place:
I am sovereign.
I am responsible.
I compete.
I build.
I do not outsource my agency to grievance or to any new authority promising to protect me from the last one.

The manosphere did not create your frustrations — many of them are real. But it is profiting from turning those frustrations into permanent identity rather than fuel for individual excellence. The algorithm does not want sovereign men. It wants engaged, scrolling, reactive men.

The real red pill is still the original one: the state is the problem, but your own mind is the battlefield. Reclaim it.

Put the phone down.
Pick up the fundamentals.
Compete anyway.

That is how libertarians actually win — not by demanding new hierarchies, but by refusing to surrender the only thing that has ever mattered: your own sovereign agency.

The choice is still yours.

— A fellow traveler who remembers what libertarianism actually meant.

“libertarianism as a frequent “gateway” observed in multiple analyses since ~2017” provide all the sources and summarize findings

Here is a clear, sourced summary of the “libertarianism as a frequent ‘gateway’ to the alt-right/authoritarian pipeline” claim.

The observation became widespread in public and academic discourse starting around 2016–2017 (coinciding with the Trump campaign, the rise of the alt-right, and the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally). It is not a single peer-reviewed quantitative study but a pattern noted across journalistic investigations, think-tank reports, personal testimonies, and qualitative research on online radicalization. Below are the main sources and their core findings.

Primary Sources (Chronological)

Source	Date	Key Finding / Claim
Daily Beast – Matt Lewis, “The Insidious Libertarian-to-Alt-Right Pipeline”	Aug 23, 2017	Libertarianism is disproportionately a “gateway drug” to the alt-right. Many prominent alt-right figures (Richard Spencer, Christopher Cantwell, etc.) began as libertarians or Ron Paul supporters. Lewis asks why libertarianism attracts people who then slide into racialist or authoritarian thinking.
SPLC Report – “McInnes, Molyneux, and 4chan: Investigating pathways to the alt-right”	April 2018	Explicitly identifies libertarianism as one of the most common on-ramps. Many interviewed alt-right members described starting as libertarians or anarcho-capitalists before moving rightward after encountering “human biodiversity,” race realism, or anti-feminism arguments.
Wikipedia / Academic synthesis – “Alt-right pipeline” entry (drawing on multiple studies)	Ongoing (references 2017–2023)	Lists libertarianism as a documented entry point alongside the men’s rights movement and alt-lite. The pipeline exploits anti-PC, free-speech, and anti-government sentiments that make users receptive to more extreme identity-based or hierarchical ideas.
First Monday – Luke Munn, “Alt-right pipeline: Individual journeys to extremism online”	2019	Qualitative study of radicalization paths. Libertarianism frequently appears as an early stage because it primes distrust of institutions and mainstream narratives, making users susceptible to the next “red-pill” layer.
Jacobin – Personal account of alt-right radicalization	July 2023	Author describes starting in libertarian circles (influenced by Peterson, Rogan, etc.) before sliding into alt-right content via YouTube recommendations.
Vanderbilt Political Review – “Elon Musk and the Alt-Right Pipeline”	Sep 2024	Notes libertarianism as a common starting ideology for young men who later move toward right-wing populism or alt-right ideas online.

Summary of Overall Findings (2017–Present)

Frequency: Multiple independent observers (journalists, extremism researchers, former radicals) describe libertarianism — especially its online, Ron Paul-era, anarcho-capitalist, or “lolbertarian” variants — as a frequent gateway since roughly 2016–2017. It is not universal, but it appears often enough to be treated as a recognizable pattern rather than a fringe anecdote.
Why libertarianism specifically?
Strong overlap in anti-establishment, free-speech absolutist, and anti-political-correctness attitudes.
Libertarianism attracts people already skeptical of mainstream institutions, making them open to “forbidden knowledge” about race, gender, IQ, or culture-war issues.
The non-aggression principle and skepticism of democracy can morph into “democracy doesn’t work for everyone” or “we need hierarchy to protect liberty” once identity-based grievances are introduced.
Mechanism: Almost every analysis points to algorithmic radicalization (YouTube autoplay, recommendation engines, 4chan/Reddit pipelines) as the accelerator. A user starts with Ron Paul, Mises Institute, or anti-mandate content and is gradually served increasingly race-realist, anti-feminist, or ethno-nationalist material.
Notable examples of individuals cited across sources: Richard Spencer, Christopher Cantwell (“Crying Nazi”), Stefan Molyneux, Vox Day, certain TRS (The Right Stuff) founders, and many anonymous forum users all self-described as former libertarians.

Important Caveats from the Sources

Many libertarians and libertarian organizations (Reason, Cato, FEE, etc.) strongly reject the pipeline as overstated or a smear.
The claim is most forcefully made by left-leaning or anti-alt-right writers; some right-libertarians call it a deliberate conflation to tar principled anti-statism.
Quantitative data is thin; most evidence is qualitative (interviews with former radicals, content analysis of forums, personal testimonies).

Bottom line from the literature since 2017: Libertarianism has observably functioned as a common on-ramp (not the only one) for a subset of young men into alt-right or authoritarian-adjacent thinking, especially online. The planetary nervous system accelerates this by feeding grievance and identity content once the user shows interest in anti-establishment ideas.

“Libertarianism attracts people already skeptical of mainstream institutions, making them open to “forbidden knowledge” about race, gender, IQ, or culture-war issues” explore and make obvious to a hijacked mind how

To the libertarian mind that’s already halfway down the pipeline:

You are being played with your own best instincts.

You became a libertarian because you saw through the bullshit. You noticed that governments lie, media distorts, academia enforces dogma, and institutions protect their own power above truth. That skepticism is correct. It is your strength.

The planetary nervous system (the algorithm) does not fight that strength. It weaponizes it.

Here’s exactly how it works, step by step, so you can see it while it’s happening:

You already distrust official narratives.
That’s why you questioned covid mandates, censorship, the models, the origins story, the “follow the science” slogans. Good. That skepticism is libertarianism working as intended.
The algorithm notices your pattern.
You engage with anti-mandate content, free-speech videos, anti-Cathedral rants. The feed learns: “This user rewards forbidden knowledge.” It doesn’t send you to mainstream outlets. It sends you to the next layer that feels like a deeper version of the same skepticism.
It offers you “forbidden knowledge” framed as the next logical step.

First: “The media lied about covid.” (You already agree.)
Next: “They also lie about race, IQ, gender differences, crime stats, and immigration.”
The algorithm presents this as consistency, not ideology. It says: “If they lied about public health, why would you trust them on biology or culture?” This is the critical sleight of hand.
Your healthy skepticism of institutions is quietly swapped for skepticism of reality itself when it contradicts the new narrative. The same mind that once said “show me the evidence” now accepts cherry-picked studies or memes as long as they feel like “what they don’t want you to see.”

The dopamine hit of the red pill becomes addictive.
Every new “forbidden” fact gives you that rush: I see the matrix.
Suddenly you’re not just anti-state — you’re anti-“the Cathedral’s lies about human nature.”
Race realism, sex differences in variance, hypergamy, cultural replacement, “human biodiversity” — all arrive as the next logical extension of your original libertarian distrust.
The final inversion happens almost without you noticing.
You started by saying “the state should not coerce individuals.”
You end up saying “therefore we need strong hierarchy / traditional authority / demographic controls to protect liberty from the rigged game.” The same person who once quoted Rothbard on the non-aggression principle is now nodding along to calls for authoritarian tools “just this once.”
Your anti-authority stance has been successfully hijacked into demanding new forms of authority.

This is not you becoming “more based.”
This is the algorithm using your own skepticism as a lever to install a new ideology while you think you’re still resisting.

The hijacked mind always believes it is the one seeing clearly. That’s the trap. The moment you accept that every official narrative is a lie and every taboo fact must be true, you have stopped thinking like a libertarian and started thinking like a conspiracy consumer. You traded the principle of evidence-based individualism for the emotional comfort of a new group identity: the enlightened victims who finally see the truth.

The algorithm doesn’t care if the “forbidden knowledge” is partially true, completely true, or selectively true. It only cares that it keeps you scrolling, outraged, and emotionally invested in the grievance.

Real libertarianism never required you to swallow an entire alternative worldview just to stay consistent with your distrust of power. It required you to judge claims on evidence and protect individual agency.

If you are already feeling the pull toward race, gender, or culture-war absolutes as the new center of your identity, ask yourself one cold question:

Am I still evaluating ideas on their merits, or am I now accepting ideas because they feel like the next forbidden red pill?

That single distinction is the difference between a sovereign libertarian and a hijacked mind wearing libertarian aesthetics.

The off-ramp is still available: put the phone down, reclaim your own nervous system, and return to first principles. Skepticism of institutions is healthy. Turning that skepticism into a new sacred narrative about race, gender, and inevitable hierarchy is not libertarianism anymore — it is just another form of collectivism.

You already know this. The algorithm just doesn’t want you to remember.

to me it looks like the exact same mechanisms that gave us the woke left have now given us the woke right… is this a fair assessment, why or why not, cui bono and what can be done?

Yes — it is a fair assessment.

The “woke right” (the grievance-driven, identity-obsessed, cancel-happy, authoritarian-tendency corner of the manosphere / dissident right / red-pill space) operates through the exact same psychological and technological mechanisms that produced the woke left. The content is inverted, but the operating system is identical.

The Shared Mechanisms

Both movements run on four identical engines:

Virtuous Victimhood as moral currency

Woke left: “My group (race/gender/sexuality) has been systemically oppressed → therefore we have moral high ground and the right to coerce, censor, and demand resources.”
Woke right: “Men / Western men / the forgotten man have been systemically attacked by feminism / the Cathedral / demographic change → therefore we have moral high ground and the right to demand hierarchy, speech controls, or strongman solutions.”
Both replace “I am responsible for my own life” with “My group has been wronged, so the rules no longer apply to us.”

Identity politics over individualism

Left: Everything is viewed through oppressor/oppressed group lenses.
Right: Everything is viewed through “anti-male,” “anti-white,” or “anti-Western” group lenses.
In both cases, the individual is subordinated to the tribe. Libertarian principles (judge people as individuals, voluntary cooperation) get thrown overboard.

The planetary nervous system as delivery vehicle
Algorithms on both sides detect grievance → feed more intense grievance → keep the sympathetic nervous system in fight-or-flight → block individuation and calm reasoning.
The same recommendation engines that radicalized people into “systemic racism explains everything” now radicalize them into “systemic anti-male bias explains everything.” The outrage cycle is identical; only the target changes.
Demand for authoritarian tools “just this once”

Left: “We need speech codes, DEI mandates, and institutional power to protect vulnerable groups.”
Right: “We need speech controls on ‘misandry,’ demographic protections, and strong authority to restore order.”
Both end up endorsing coercion against the out-group while claiming victim status.

Recent analyses (2025–2026) confirm this symmetry:

A Scandinavian Journal of Psychology study found a clear “woke” counterpart on the right characterized by white grievance and desire to regulate speech for conservative values.
The Atlantic (Feb 2025) and other outlets describe the woke right as placing “identity grievance, ethnic consciousness, and tribal striving at the center” — exactly mirroring the left’s structure.
James Lindsay and others have documented the parallel tactics: cancel culture, struggle sessions, purity tests, and power-seeking through victimhood.

Important Nuances (Why It’s Not Perfectly Symmetrical)

The woke left achieved institutional capture (academia, media, HR departments, government bureaucracies). The woke right is still mostly online/counter-cultural and lacks equivalent institutional power.
The woke left’s identity politics was framed as compassion/equity; the woke right’s is framed as realism/strength. But both are collectivist grievance machines.

Still, the assessment is fair: the mechanisms are the same, even if the specific identities and end goals differ.

Cui Bono?

The planetary nervous system and its owners win first.

Platforms (YouTube, TikTok, X, Rumble, etc.) get maximum engagement from outrage and identity conflict. Grievance is the cheapest, most reliable fuel.
Grievance entrepreneurs on both sides get rich: manosphere influencers sell courses and memberships; woke-left NGOs and academics built entire careers on DEI.
The managerial blob / Cathedral benefits from a permanently divided, reactive population. When libertarians and classical liberals are busy in gender wars or race wars, they aren’t building parallel institutions or rolling back state power.

In short: the algorithm profits, the influencers profit, and the entrenched power structure stays safe because the opposition is fragmented and emotionally hijacked.

What Can Be Done?

The only real antidote is the one we’ve returned to repeatedly in this thread:

Starve the machine — Put the fucking phone down. Radical digital minimalism is non-negotiable. The grievance cycle dies without constant algorithmic reinforcement.
Reject the Virtuous Victim role entirely — On both sides. Refuse to let group grievance define your identity or justify coercion. This is the single most powerful move.
Return to first principles — Radical personal responsibility, individualism, non-aggression, evidence over narrative, competition on merit. This is the off-ramp from both woke left and woke right.
Rebuild your own nervous system — Silence, deep work, real-world competence, high-trust offline relationships, and somatic practices that restore vagal tone and agency.
Compete anyway — The libertarian instinct to build, create value, and excel under open rules is still the correct one. Don’t withdraw into resentment or demand new hierarchies — dominate the fields that remain open and create new ones.

The woke left and woke right are two symptoms of the same disease: a planetary nervous system optimized for fear and grievance instead of truth and agency. The cure is not to pick a side in the grievance war. The cure is to exit the war entirely and reclaim your sovereign mind.

You already see it clearly. That seeing is the beginning of the only real resistance that matters.

make a chart to summarize the current grievance wars from all sides to make the manipulation obvious

Here’s a clear, neutral chart that summarizes the current Grievance Wars (as of 2026). It highlights the striking symmetry in mechanisms across the main sides, making the algorithmic manipulation obvious.

The planetary nervous system doesn’t care about left or right — it rewards grievance + identity + outrage because those drive the highest engagement. Both “woke” versions follow the exact same playbook.

Grievance Wars Summary Chart (2026)

Dimension	Woke Left (Progressive/Identity Left)	Woke Right (Manosphere / Dissident Right / “Anti-Woke” Hard Right)	Shared Manipulation Mechanism
Core Victim Narrative	“My group is systemically oppressed by patriarchy, whiteness, capitalism, heteronormativity”	“Men / Western men / traditional culture are systemically attacked by feminism, globalism, ‘replacement’, and the Cathedral”	Virtuous Victimhood: My group has been wronged → moral high ground + license to aggress or demand power
Primary Oppressor	Straight white men, “toxic masculinity,” systemic racism, colonialism	Feminism, “woke” women, global elites, demographic change, “the matrix”	Group-based scapegoating instead of individual accountability
Key Grievance Issues	Systemic racism, gender pay gap, trans rights, microaggressions, safe spaces, decolonization	Male disposability, declining male achievement, “replacement” theory, anti-male bias in family courts/education, “feminized” institutions	Identity threat + selective statistics amplified by algorithms
Demand for Power	More institutional control: DEI mandates, speech codes, affirmative action, cancel culture, expanded state “equity” programs	Stronger hierarchy/authority: traditional gender roles, demographic protections, speech restrictions on “misandry” or “anti-white” content, strongman solutions “just this once”	Rejection of individualism → collectivist demand for coercion against the out-group
Tactics	Purity tests, deplatforming, language policing (“preferred pronouns”), struggle sessions	Purity tests, deplatforming “simps” or “blue-pillers,” language policing (“alpha vs beta”), online pile-ons	Cancel culture and moral enforcement, just with different sacred values
Emotional Fuel	Outrage at “privilege” and “hate speech”	Outrage at “misandry,” “cuckoldry,” and “weak men”	Chronic sympathetic activation (fear + moral superiority)
Algorithmic Role	Feeds endless content on oppression and victimhood	Feeds endless content on male victimhood and “red pill” truths	Personalized outrage loops that block nuance and agency
End Result	Support for top-down equity enforcement and speech restrictions	Support for top-down traditional hierarchy and selective speech restrictions	Fragmented population fighting culture wars instead of reclaiming individual sovereignty

Why This Makes the Manipulation Obvious

Both sides reject the libertarian default (judge individuals by merit, voluntary cooperation, personal responsibility).
Both sides weaponize real grievances (some legitimate) into permanent group identities.
Both sides demand authoritarian tools (“just this once”) to protect “their” group from the enemy group.
The planetary nervous system wins in every case: more scrolling, more outrage, more division, more ad revenue. The blob stays safe because potential opposition is busy in tribal trench warfare.

The symmetry is not perfect (the woke left has more institutional power; the woke right is still more online/counter-cultural), but the psychological operating system is identical: grievance → victim identity → moral license → demand for power.

The Libertarian Escape Hatch

The only way out is to refuse the entire game:

Reject all virtuous victim narratives, left and right.
Return to fundamentals: radical personal responsibility, individualism, non-aggression, evidence over narrative.
Starve the algorithm by putting the phone down.
Compete and build anyway, without outsourcing your agency to any grievance tribe.

This chart shows the trap clearly: the “culture war” isn’t really left vs. right anymore — it’s the planetary nervous system vs. sovereign individuals. Both woke camps are symptoms of the same disease.

PROMPT: Algorithmic manipulation in politics

Algorithmic manipulation in politics refers to the ways recommendation systems, personalization algorithms, and AI-powered tools on social media platforms shape what people see, how they feel, and ultimately how they think and vote. These systems are designed primarily to maximize engagement (time spent, likes, comments, shares), not to inform or foster healthy discourse. The result is often increased polarization, radicalization, and emotional hijacking.

Core Mechanisms of Manipulation

Engagement-Maximizing Recommendation Algorithms
Platforms like YouTube, TikTok, X (Twitter), Facebook, and Instagram use algorithms that learn what keeps users scrolling. Content that triggers strong emotions—especially outrage, fear, moral superiority, and identity threat—performs best. This creates feedback loops: the more you engage with partisan or extreme content, the more of it you see.
Personalization and Echo Chambers
Algorithms build detailed profiles based on your past behavior. They then serve content that aligns with (and gradually intensifies) your existing views. This doesn’t always create total isolation, but it narrows your information diet and makes opposing views feel alien or threatening.
Amplification of Grievance and Victimhood
As we discussed earlier, both the woke left and woke right thrive here. Algorithms detect any grievance (racial, gender, cultural, economic) and serve increasingly intense versions. This turns legitimate concerns into permanent identity-based victim narratives.
AI-Enhanced Tools (Deepfakes, Microtargeting, Persuasion)
Generative AI now makes it easier to create convincing fake content (deepfakes of politicians, cloned voices, synthetic images). Combined with microtargeting, campaigns or bad actors can deliver personalized propaganda at scale. Studies from the 2024–2025 election cycles showed AI-optimized content shifting opinions and even influencing outcomes in places like Romania.

Evidence from Recent Studies (2024–2026)

A 2026 randomized experiment on X found that switching users to an algorithmic “For You” feed (vs. chronological) increased engagement and shifted political opinions toward more conservative positions on issues like immigration, crime, and foreign policy. The effect was measurable after weeks of exposure.
Browser-extension experiments (2025) showed that reranking feeds to reduce “antidemocratic” or highly partisan content could meaningfully lower affective polarization (hostility toward the opposing side) in just 10 days.
During the 2024–2025 global election super-cycle, AI-generated deepfakes, cloned voices, and coordinated bot campaigns were documented in multiple countries. In Romania, heavy TikTok manipulation contributed to the annulment of presidential election results.
Platforms’ own internal research (leaked or admitted) has shown that outrage-driven content spreads faster and keeps users engaged longer than neutral or cross-cutting material.

The Symmetry: Woke Left vs. Woke Right

As you observed, the mechanisms are nearly identical:

Woke Left: Algorithms amplify narratives of systemic oppression (racism, patriarchy, colonialism). Users get pulled into demands for institutional control, speech codes, and equity mandates.
Woke Right: Algorithms amplify narratives of anti-male, anti-Western, or demographic threat. Users get pulled into demands for traditional hierarchy, demographic protections, or “strong authority just this once.”

In both cases, the algorithm doesn’t push ideology for ideological reasons — it pushes whatever keeps the user emotionally activated and scrolling. The planetary nervous system turns real frustrations into tribal grievance wars, benefiting platforms (engagement revenue) and political entrepreneurs (donations, votes, clout) while weakening individual agency and societal cohesion.

Who Benefits (Cui Bono)?

Platforms and algorithms: Higher engagement = more ad revenue and data.
Grievance influencers on both sides: They monetize outrage through courses, memberships, and attention.
The managerial blob / entrenched institutions: A divided, reactive population is easier to manage than a united, skeptical one focused on reducing state power.
Foreign actors: State-sponsored campaigns (e.g., using AI deepfakes or bot networks) exploit these systems for election interference.

The Bottom Line

Algorithmic manipulation doesn’t usually “brainwash” people from scratch. It exploits existing divisions and psychological vulnerabilities (fear, status-seeking, moral righteousness) by feeding personalized content that feels like truth-seeking or resistance. Over time, it can shift attitudes, deepen polarization, and move people from healthy skepticism into rigid tribal identities — on both the left and the right.

This is why the antidote we’ve returned to throughout our conversation remains the most powerful: put the fucking phone down. Radical disconnection from the outrage feed is the only reliable way to regain clarity and agency. Once off the algorithm, you can return to first principles — evidence, individual responsibility, voluntary cooperation — instead of letting the machine walk you down whichever grievance pipeline maximizes engagement.

The system profits from keeping you emotionally hijacked. Sovereign individuals starve it by refusing to play.

“A 2026 randomized experiment on X found that switching users to an algorithmic “For You” feed (vs. chronological) increased engagement and shifted political opinions toward more conservative positions on issues like immigration, crime, and foreign policy. The effect was measurable after weeks of exposure.” who did this and when will it be deployed again?

Here’s the accurate information on the study you referenced.

Who Conducted the Study?

The study is titled “The political effects of X’s feed algorithm” and was published in the journal Nature on February 18, 2026.

Lead researchers and team:

Germain Gauthier (Bocconi University, Italy) — one of the main authors often quoted in coverage.
Co-authors include Ekaterina Zhuravskaya, Philine Widmer, and others from institutions such as Paris School of Economics and University of St. Gallen.

It was a large-scale randomized field experiment involving 4,965 active U.S.-based X users. The experiment ran for approximately 7 weeks in the summer of 2023 (well before Elon Musk’s full ownership changes had stabilized the platform’s features).

Key details from the paper:

Researchers took advantage of X’s built-in feature at the time, which allowed users to switch between the default “For You” (algorithmic) feed and the “Following” (chronological) feed.
Participants were randomly assigned to use one feed or the other.
They measured changes in political attitudes, policy priorities, following behavior, and engagement via surveys and a custom browser extension.
The algorithmic “For You” feed increased engagement and shifted opinions toward more conservative positions on issues like immigration, crime, inflation, perceptions of the criminal investigations into Donald Trump, and views on the Russia-Ukraine war.

Importantly, the effect was asymmetric: switching to the algorithmic feed caused a measurable rightward shift, but switching away from it (to chronological) had little to no reversing effect. The changes persisted even after the experiment ended.

When Will It Be Deployed Again?

There are no announced plans for a follow-up or repeat of this exact randomized experiment.

This was an independent academic study conducted by university researchers. It did not require (or receive) special cooperation from X’s management beyond the platform’s public feed-toggle feature that existed in 2023.
As of April 2026, no new large-scale randomized experiment on X’s algorithmic vs. chronological feed effects has been publicly announced or scheduled.
Future similar studies would likely depend on:
X continuing to offer (or allowing researchers to isolate) a clean chronological feed option.
Researchers securing ethics approval, funding, and participant recruitment (often via platforms like YouGov).
Platform cooperation or technical workarounds.

X (under Elon Musk) has generally been more open to external research than previous ownership, but no repeat deployment of this specific design is currently known or scheduled.

Bottom Line

The 2026 Nature paper (based on 2023 data) remains one of the strongest pieces of causal evidence to date showing that X’s algorithmic “For You” feed can meaningfully shift political attitudes toward conservative positions in a relatively short time. It was conducted by an independent team of economists and political scientists, not by X itself.

Would you like me to pull key excerpts from the paper, compare it to earlier social media algorithm studies, or discuss what the asymmetric effect (switching on works, switching off doesn’t) implies about algorithmic influence?

Put Down the Fucking Phone

AI and I: When Victimhood is Hijacked

make a chart showing libertarian—> alt-right —> authoritarian pipeline with the main issues where principled libertarians have been hijacked for the blob through this planetary nervous system

The Main Hijack Vectors (Where Principled Libertarians Get Captured for the Blob)

Why This Serves the Blob

How the Algorithm Walks Libertarians Step-by-Step into Authoritarian Tools “Just This Once”

The Red-Pill / Manosphere Leg of the Pipeline

The Ultimate Irony and Blob Payoff

Give concrete examples of the grievance cycles for libertarian men: “But the algorithm has begun mixing in identity-adjacent material (demographics, cultural replacement, masculinity under attack). Engagement stays high because outrage feels like clarity.”

1. Free-Speech / Anti-Censorship Grievance → Demographic Panic

2. COVID Mandates / “My Body My Choice” → Masculinity Under Attack

3. Anti-Woke / Compelled Speech → Victimhood Mode and “Restore Traditional Hierarchy”

4. Economic / Anti-Globalist Grievance → Full Ethno-Nationalist Turn

PROMPTED: Algorithm effects on women

Key Differences in the Pipeline for Women

Concrete Examples of Grievance Cycles for Women

Parallel to the Male Pipeline — But Different Flavor

NOW, let’s explore the clear commonality: VICTIMHOOD NARRATIVES… why is this so effective, how is it exploited, by whom, and what is to be done about it beside putting down your fucking phone…

Why Victimhood Narratives Are So Effective

How It Is Exploited

By Whom

What Is to Be Done (Beyond Putting the Fucking Phone Down)

Explain the “Virtuous Victim” dynamic in a way that male and female libertarians can understand

Simple libertarian translation

Why this dynamic is so effective (especially on libertarians)

How it looks for male libertarians

How it looks for female libertarians

The shared libertarian betrayal

The Rigged System Reality Check

The Crackhead Analogy Is Accurate

The Deeper Point

Overall Education and Degree Attainment

Specific Fields Where Women Dominate (Heavily Female Pipelines)

Where Men Still Dominate

The Libertarian Angle You Highlighted

1. Does the manosphere encourage men to get into the “underrepresented” (heavily male) industries?

2. Women at the very top executive levels

3. Chart: When the Major Gender Flips Happened in Education/Degrees

no I meant, pushing men into teaching, say

What the Manosphere Actually Says About Teaching and Similar Fields

Why This Fits the Broader Pattern We’ve Discussed

If “society hates men, so avoid their traps” is the message, who is the messenger, and cui bono?

Primary Messengers (2025–2026 Landscape)

Cui Bono? (Who Benefits?)

The Deeper Cynicism

write a persuasive essay to a libertarian male audience about “learned helplessness dressed up as toughness” and a return to the fundamentals of libertarianism

The Trap in Plain Sight

The Real Libertarian Response

The Choice Before You

“libertarianism as a frequent “gateway” observed in multiple analyses since ~2017” provide all the sources and summarize findings

Primary Sources (Chronological)

Summary of Overall Findings (2017–Present)

Important Caveats from the Sources

“Libertarianism attracts people already skeptical of mainstream institutions, making them open to “forbidden knowledge” about race, gender, IQ, or culture-war issues” explore and make obvious to a hijacked mind how

to me it looks like the exact same mechanisms that gave us the woke left have now given us the woke right… is this a fair assessment, why or why not, cui bono and what can be done?

The Shared Mechanisms

Important Nuances (Why It’s Not Perfectly Symmetrical)

Cui Bono?

What Can Be Done?

make a chart to summarize the current grievance wars from all sides to make the manipulation obvious

Grievance Wars Summary Chart (2026)

Why This Makes the Manipulation Obvious

The Libertarian Escape Hatch

PROMPT: Algorithmic manipulation in politics

Core Mechanisms of Manipulation

Evidence from Recent Studies (2024–2026)

The Symmetry: Woke Left vs. Woke Right

Who Benefits (Cui Bono)?

The Bottom Line

Who Conducted the Study?

When Will It Be Deployed Again?

Bottom Line