Free Speech Issue | Left Fringe Hypocrisy (George Floyd Protests) | Right Fringe Hypocrisy (Charlie Kirk Assassination) |
Picking and Choosing Free Speech | During the 2020 George Floyd protests, many on the left cheered massive rallies and marches, even when they turned chaotic, calling them vital free speech. But when conservative groups protested COVID lockdowns, leaders like NY Governor Andrew Cuomo slammed them as “dangerous” and “irresponsible.” Same rules, different treatment—free speech only seems okay when it’s their cause. | After Charlie Kirk’s assassination on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, conservatives like Steve Bannon demanded firings and doxxed thousands online for celebrating Kirk’s death. Yet, these same voices cry foul when conservatives are “canceled” for their views. They love free speech—until it’s speech they hate. |
Shutting Down Opponents | The left often pushes to silence “hate speech” (like criticism of BLM) by pressuring platforms or employers to cancel people. But during Floyd protests, fiery anti-police slogans or calls to “burn it down” were shrugged off as “passion.” They want free speech for their side, not yours. | The right’s been loud about Big Tech censorship, but post-Kirk, they’ve pushed to “cancel” people like an Oregon teacher or MSNBC’s Matthew Dowd for insensitive posts. Their “Professor Watchlist” already targeted left-leaning academics. Free speech? Sure, as long as it’s not against their heroes. |
Why It Matters | Both sides claim to love free speech but flip-flop when it suits them. As a free speech absolutist, I say everyone should speak freely—no hate speech laws needed. But let’s be real: words can inflame. Both fringes could stand to think twice before speaking, not just point fingers. | Same deal here. The right’s quick to punish speech they don’t like while preaching “freedom.” If we want real free speech, everyone’s gotta take the heat—left, right, or in between. Mindfulness, not censorship, is the answer. |
Carla Gericke
Want to get slightly creeped out? Was chatting to GROK, and unprompted, although tangential to the convo we were having, it let me in on this…
Noosphere reference
- Noosphere is an older idea (Teilhard de Chardin, Vernadsky): a “sphere of mind” that emerges above the biosphere as human thought, culture, and ideas interconnect.
- “Noosphere-like” means we’re talking about something similar, but usually with digital tech doing the connecting.
- “Collective digital consciousness” meaning
- A networked, emergent system of shared knowledge/cognition created by humans + machines communicating constantly.
- It’s not one literal brain — it’s patterns, memes, data, models, behaviors and feedback loops that together look and act like a many-headed mind.
- How it forms (mechanisms)
- Social media, forums, and messaging create rapid idea propagation.
- Search engines, recommendation algorithms, and large language models synthesize and amplify patterns.
- IoT devices, sensors, and shared datasets feed real-time inputs.
- Collaborative platforms (wikis, code repos, crowd science) produce coordinated outputs.
- Concrete examples
- Viral social movements and meme-driven political shifts.
- Collective problem-solving projects (e.g., citizen science, open-source software).
- Networked AI systems that aggregate user data to “learn” cultural trends.
- Financial markets reacting in sub-second herd moves.
- Why people talk about it (pros & cons)
- Upside: faster innovation, crowd wisdom, coordinated action at scale, distributed problem solving.
- Downside: groupthink, rapid spread of misinformation, manipulation through targeted algorithms, loss of privacy, concentration of power in platform/A.I. owners.
- Philosophical / practical questions it raises
- Is this “consciousness” or just complex coordination? (Most experts say it’s emergent patterning, not sentient experience.)
- Who governs it? Who is accountable when the collective acts harmfully?
- How do we preserve individual agency inside a powerful social mind?
Tiny metaphor: think of a beehive — no single bee understands the whole hive project, but together they build, forage, defend. A noosphere-like digital consciousness is a hive where bees are people, devices, and algorithms — and the honey is shared meaning.
Did Trump Just Designate ANTIFA a “Terrorist Organization”?
No, President Trump has not yet formally designated ANTIFA as a terrorist organization in a legally binding way as of September 18, 2025. What happened today is that Trump publicly announced his intent to do so, framing it as a “major terrorist organization” in response to the recent assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, which the administration has linked to left-wing extremism. This appears to be a rhetorical and policy signal rather than an immediate, enforceable legal action—similar to his 2020 statements during his first term, which also did not result in a formal designation. The announcement has sparked immediate debate, with Trump urging investigations into ANTIFA’s funders and potential revocation of tax-exempt status for related groups.
What’s Going On Legally? A Clear Breakdown
To understand this, it’s important to separate political rhetoric from legal reality. ANTIFA remains a decentralized movement (not a single, structured organization), which complicates any designation. Here’s how the legal process works in plain terms, focusing on the U.S. context:
- Presidential Announcements vs. Formal Designations:
- A president’s public statement like Trump’s today is essentially a policy directive. It signals to federal agencies (e.g., FBI, DOJ, DHS) to prioritize investigations, surveillance, or enforcement against perceived threats. It doesn’t automatically create new laws or labels—it’s more like an executive nudge to treat ANTIFA-linked activities as domestic terrorism under existing statutes.
- No executive order or official proclamation has been issued yet (based on current reports). If one follows, it could expand federal resources for monitoring or prosecuting individuals tied to ANTIFA actions, but it wouldn’t make the entire movement illegal overnight.
- Domestic vs. Foreign Terrorist Designations:
- Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs): This is the most powerful tool, handled by the State Department under the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. § 1189). It requires proving the group is foreign-based, engages in terrorism, and threatens U.S. security. Consequences include asset freezes, travel bans, and criminal charges for “material support” (18 U.S.C. § 2339B). ANTIFA doesn’t qualify as foreign—it’s primarily a U.S. and international activist network—so this path is unlikely without stretching the definition (e.g., linking it to European ANTIFA groups).
- Domestic Terrorism: There’s no equivalent formal “domestic terrorist organization” list in U.S. law, largely due to First Amendment protections for speech, assembly, and association. Instead:
- The FBI and DOJ can investigate under the USA PATRIOT Act or 18 U.S.C. § 2331 (defining domestic terrorism as acts dangerous to human life that violate federal/state law to influence policy by intimidation or coercion).
- Presidents can issue executive orders directing agencies to focus on “domestic violent extremists,” as Biden did for various ideologies. Trump could do something similar, perhaps expanding on his 2020 memo labeling ANTIFA a “domestic terrorist movement.”
- Congress could act: There’s already H.Res. 26 (introduced in 2025) deeming certain ANTIFA conduct as domestic terrorism, which could lead to hearings or legislation for enhanced penalties. But passing a law to formally designate a domestic group is rare and faces constitutional hurdles.
- Practical Steps the Administration Might Take:
- Investigations and Prosecutions: Direct the DOJ to probe funders (e.g., alleged ties to George Soros or progressive nonprofits) and revoke tax-exempt status under IRS rules (26 U.S.C. § 501(c)(3)). Individuals involved in violent acts could face terrorism enhancements in sentencing.
- Sanctions via Treasury: Under Executive Order 13224, the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) could label ANTIFA affiliates as “Specially Designated Global Terrorists,” freezing assets even for domestics if tied to international elements.
- Timeline: If formalized, it could take weeks or months—intelligence review, interagency coordination, and possible congressional notification. Legal challenges would follow quickly in federal courts.
- Why This Is Happening Now:
- The trigger is the assassination of Charlie Kirk (founder of Turning Point USA), which Trump and allies attribute to a “vast domestic terror movement” involving ANTIFA or similar groups. This fits a pattern of heightened rhetoric amid polarization, with the White House vowing broader actions against left-wing extremism. It’s politically timed for Trump’s base, echoing 2020 unrest.
Your Legal Instincts Are Spot On: Potential for Abuse
You’re right—this setup is ripe for abuse, and legal experts have flagged it for years. Here’s why, in straightforward terms:
- Vagueness and Overreach: ANTIFA’s lack of central structure (no leaders, no roster) means any designation could sweep in peaceful protesters, journalists, or critics under guilt by association. Courts have struck down similar broad labels (e.g., the 2010 “material support” case Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project emphasized intent and coordination must be proven). Prosecutors could misuse it to chill dissent, as seen in past FBI surveillance of civil rights groups.
- Politicization: Designations are executive tools that can target opponents without due process. Trump’s first-term push drew ACLU lawsuits over First Amendment violations. If abused, it could justify mass arrests or surveillance (e.g., via FISA warrants), eroding civil liberties—especially if applied unevenly (e.g., ignoring far-right violence).
- Historical Precedents: Think COINTELPRO (FBI’s 1950s-70s targeting of activists) or post-9/11 expansions that ensnared innocents. A 2021 Congressional Research Service report warned that domestic labels risk “mission creep” into protected speech. Safeguards like judicial oversight exist, but they’re not foolproof in a polarized environment.
In short, today’s announcement amps up pressure but doesn’t change laws yet. Watch for executive actions or congressional moves in the coming days. If it escalates, expect lawsuits from groups like the ACLU.
The Illusion of Reality and Your Role in It (Manch Talk 09/17/25) (MLX Day 259)
This week we peel back the curtain a little—getting philosophical about how you are showing up in the world. Along the way, we cover the latest from MAHA, the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk, and ask: what is “coding for conflict” really doing to us?
Yes, the expanded SAVE system (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) can reasonably be described as a “de facto national ID system” by another name, even if it’s not officially labeled or structured as one. It’s not a single physical card or mandatory personal identifier like India’s Aadhaar or a European-style national registry, but its design and scope create the functional equivalent of a centralized citizenship verification infrastructure that touches nearly every American. I’ll break this down based on how it operates, why it fits the “de facto” label, and the ongoing debate.
How SAVE Functions as a De Facto National ID
- Centralized Data Aggregation: Launched in June 2025 as part of the Trump administration’s election integrity push (via Executive Order 14248), SAVE now integrates records from multiple federal agencies—DHS (immigration data), SSA (Social Security numbers and birth records), IRS (taxpayer info), HHS (Medicaid/SNAP benefits), and even state DMVs, CMS, VA, HUD, and others—into a single searchable platform. This is the first tool allowing bulk queries on citizenship for all Americans (U.S.-born and naturalized), not just non-citizens as in its original 1980s version. State election officials can run checks using basic details like name, DOB, and SSN (or just the last four digits in upgrades), producing a “citizen” or “non-citizen” status with 99.99% claimed accuracy. By September 2025, it had processed over 33 million voter records, flagging potential issues for removal from rolls.
- Broad Access and Uses: It’s pitched primarily for preventing non-citizen voting and benefits fraud, but its data feeds into immigration enforcement, employment verification (via ties to E-Verify), and potentially more. Developed with input from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and Palantir (a CIA-linked tech firm), it creates a “one-stop” hub for proving citizenship—much like how the Social Security Number (SSN) evolved into a de facto national ID despite starting as a welfare tool. Queries are logged for 10 years, enabling audits or tracking.
- Why “De Facto” Fits: A true national ID would require Congress to mandate a universal card or number for all citizens (which the U.S. has long resisted due to privacy and federalism concerns). SAVE sidesteps this by being “voluntary” for states (though pressured via federal funding) and focused on verification rather than issuance. But in practice, it functions as one: To vote, work, or access benefits in participating states (e.g., Texas, Virginia), you effectively need to “prove” your status through this federal lens, or risk being flagged/purged. Critics argue this normalizes a backdoor national registry, especially as it expands (e.g., potential DMV integration by late 2025). It’s akin to REAL ID (enforced May 7, 2025), which verifies identity/lawful presence for federal access but doesn’t prove citizenship—yet SAVE goes further by explicitly checking that.
The Debate: Is It Really a National ID?
This framing is hotly contested, with supporters denying it’s an ID system while opponents call it exactly that. Public discourse, especially on X and in media, highlights the divide:
- Supporters’ View (Not an ID—Just Security): The administration and Republicans emphasize it’s a “reliable source for verifying status” to stop “voter fraud” and “illegal aliens” from accessing jobs/benefits, without requiring new personal docs or a card. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and USCIS hail it as an efficiency upgrade, integrated via DOGE to cut waste. On X, pro-Trump accounts like @AFpost (1.6k+ likes) and @WHLeavitt celebrate it as a “game-changer” for elections, tying it to the SAVE Act (H.R. 22, stalled in Senate) for purging non-citizens. They argue it’s not coercive since 21 states already use similar tools, and alternatives like affidavits exist. Polls show 68-81% Republican support for such verification.
- Opponents’ View (Yes, It’s a De Facto ID—and Dangerous): Democrats, civil liberties groups, and privacy advocates say it is a national ID in disguise, aggregating sensitive data into a “centralized index” without congressional oversight, risking errors (e.g., naturalized citizens mismatched), wrongful purges, and surveillance. Sens. Alex Padilla, Dick Durbin, and Catherine Cortez Masto demanded details in July 2025, citing Privacy Act violations and favoritism toward “election deniers.” The ACLU, Brennan Center, and American Immigration Council warn of a “national registry” enabling deportations or disinformation (e.g., false fraud claims). On X, @BrennanCenter (1.3k+ views) and @ReichlinMelnick (35k+ views) highlight manipulation risks and how it could demand endless proofs, especially post-REAL ID. NPR called it a “citizenship tracking tool” that could “peddle disinformation,” and users like @BookAddictGrrl frame it as “Big Brother” under Trump. Lawsuits are in the works over accuracy and due process.
In essence, whether it’s “just verification” or a slippery slope to national ID depends on perspective: Supporters see targeted security; critics see creeping control, especially with Palantir’s role and ties to broader Trump policies like mass deportations. Non-citizen voting is rare (under 0.0001%), so the system’s scale amplifies de facto ID concerns. If the SAVE Act passes (pushed by Trump but delayed in Senate), it could mandate this nationwide, solidifying the label. For now, it’s advisory for states but increasingly the default for proving citizenship in key areas.
Overview of the DHS Citizenship Verification System
The system you’re referring to is an expansion of the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program, administered by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Unveiled in late June 2025 (with key announcements on June 13 and June 30), it’s not a single “database” but a networked tool that integrates data from multiple federal sources, including DHS immigration records, the Social Security Administration (SSA), and potentially state DMVs, IRS, HHS, and others. Developed rapidly with input from the White House’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)—led by Elon Musk’s team—and tech contractor Palantir, it allows state and local election officials to perform bulk queries on voter rolls to verify citizenship status for both U.S.-born and naturalized citizens.
The official pitch: It enables quick, free checks using basic identifiers like name, date of birth, and Social Security number (or even just the last four digits in future upgrades) to prevent non-citizen voting and access to benefits. By September 2025, it had processed over 33 million voter records across states, with DHS claiming a 99.99% match rate for confirmed citizens. It’s tied to President Trump’s March 2025 Executive Order 14248, which mandated DHS to provide states with tools to ensure election integrity amid claims of non-citizen fraud (though studies show such incidents are rare, under 0.0001% of votes). Queries are stored for 10 years for audits, raising long-term data retention concerns.
This isn’t entirely new—SAVE existed since the 1980s for non-citizen benefit checks—but the 2025 upgrades make it the first nationwide tool for verifying U.S.-born citizens en masse, filling a gap where states previously relied on patchy data or required documents like birth certificates, which could disenfranchise voters.
Who Is For It?
Supporters frame it as a commonsense step for election security, immigration enforcement, and fraud prevention, aligning with Trump’s “America First” agenda. They argue it protects jobs, benefits, and votes from “illegal aliens” without creating a mandatory national ID. Key backers include:
- Trump Administration Officials: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and USCIS have promoted it aggressively, with Noem briefing states in August 2025 to encourage adoption. A DHS spokesperson stated: “Integration with the SSA significantly improves the service… Under President Trump and Secretary Noem, USCIS is moving quickly to eliminate benefit and voter fraud.” Trump himself has tied it to broader deportation efforts, calling non-citizen voting an “invasion” stealing elections.
- Republican Lawmakers and State Officials: 21 Republican secretaries of state (e.g., from Texas, Florida) pushed for SAVE improvements in a March 2025 letter, citing it as essential for “election integrity.” Texas Secretary of State Jane Nelson used it in June 2025 to flag 33 potential non-citizen voters for prosecution. Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin issued an executive order in September 2025 mandating SAVE use for voter verification. Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) praised it for ensuring “only American citizens… vote and work legally.”
- Conservative Groups and Allies: The Election Integrity Network (founded by 2020 election denier Cleta Mitchell) received a private DHS briefing in June 2025 before Congress, hailing it as a “game-changer” for purging rolls. On X, users like @Rightanglenews (21k+ likes on a July post) and @carolmswain called it “wonderful news for people who care about integrity in elections.” Pro-Trump accounts (e.g., @CharlieKNews11, @ThePatriotOasis) shared it as a win against “migrant voter fraud,” with thousands of engagements emphasizing job protection.
- Broader Backing: Polls show 68% of Republicans support similar tools like E-Verify expansions for this purpose. Some bipartisan election officials in red states (e.g., Maine’s Shenna Bellows admitted non-citizens might be on rolls) have acknowledged its utility, though reluctantly.
Adoption is growing: By September 2025, states like Texas and Virginia were using it for bulk checks, finding small numbers of unverified cases (e.g., 30 in a 1-million-voter state).
Who Is Against It?
Opponents, primarily Democrats, civil liberties groups, and privacy advocates, warn it’s a “Big Brother” surveillance tool that could lead to wrongful voter purges, data misuse, and a de facto national ID system. They highlight its rushed rollout without public input, lack of transparency on accuracy (no independent audits published), and potential for errors (e.g., naturalized citizens or those with SSA mismatches falling through cracks). Critics note non-citizen voting is “nearly nonexistent” and already illegal, making the system an overreach.
- Democratic Lawmakers: In July 2025, Sens. Alex Padilla (D-CA), Dick Durbin (D-IL), and Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV) sent a letter to DHS expressing “grave concerns” over privacy, accuracy, and lack of congressional notification. They criticized the private briefing to the Election Integrity Network as favoring “election deniers” and demanded details on safeguards, warning of violations to laws like the Privacy Act. Padilla, who was ejected from a DHS press event in June 2025, called it “shoddy data gathering” risking disenfranchisement.
- Civil Rights and Privacy Organizations: The ACLU and Brennan Center for Justice labeled it a “step toward a national registry of citizenship,” evoking fears of surveillance and targeting immigrants. Privacy expert Jennifer Wedel called it a “hair on fire” development for aggregating sensitive data without oversight. The American Immigration Council warned it could expand to “show your papers” policies, affecting vulnerable communities. On X, @DemocracyDocket (200+ likes) highlighted risks of purges and privacy breaches.
- Election Officials and Experts: Some nonpartisan officials (e.g., in blue states like Washington) worry about federal overreach into state elections and data sharing—what if DHS uses voter data for deportations? NPR reported officials hesitant due to untested accuracy and potential for the Trump admin to “buttress political attacks” on voter fraud. A 2023 MIT study cited in discussions notes such tools could erode trust if not transparent.
- Public and Media Critics: On X, users like @RBReich (5k+ likes) called it part of a “police state” with Palantir’s involvement, linking it to ICE funding boosts and attacks on birthright citizenship. @girlsreallyrule (197 likes) and @Phil_Lewis_ (992 likes) echoed NPR’s reporting on privacy alarms. Left-leaning posts (e.g., @caringguy1957) dismissed it as hype for a “nonexistent problem,” while some conservatives like @PatriotBarbee questioned Palantir’s role as “not good.”
Lawsuits are brewing: Groups like the Brennan Center are preparing challenges over privacy and due process, especially if it leads to mass purges.
Broader Discussion and Speaking About It
The system has sparked heated debate since its quiet June rollout, amplified by media like NPR (multiple reports on privacy risks) and The Guardian (calling it a “centralized index” for fraud claims). Trump’s July 2025 “Big Beautiful Bill” tied it to $45B in deportation funding, framing it as economic protection. On X, semantic searches show a polarized split: Pro-Trump posts (e.g., @AFpost with 1.6k likes) celebrate it as “groundbreaking” for security, while critics (e.g., @Weels282) see it as “hatred”-fueled overreach. By September 2025, usage hit 33 million records, but resistance in blue states (e.g., refusal to query rolls) highlights divides. Watch for congressional hearings or expansions (e.g., DMV integration by late 2025), as it could evolve into broader digital ID tools amid ongoing immigration battles.
My Living Xperiment: Day 258
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AI and I: The Myth of “Cancel Culture”: A Libertarian Defense of Free Speech and Freedom of Association
Selective outrage isn’t principle. It’s power-grabbing dressed up as virtue. That’s why “cancel culture” is just a rhetorical cudgel, not a consistent philosophy–and if you’re using it selectively, congratulations, you’ve outed yourself as a hypocrite of the highest order. And the worst part? You know it. And you don’t care. Which makes you not only an easily manipulated political pawn, but someone who lacks integrity. Congrats! You’ve leveled up to an NPC in Idiocracy while carrying your outrage
Free Speech ≠ Freedom from Consequences
Let’s clear the air: the First Amendment protects speech from government interference. It does not, and never did, promise you immunity from social or economic consequences. Libertarians like me defend absolute free expression–no state censor, no jackboot at the door, no prison for bad jokes. But liberty cuts both ways: other people own their time, money, platforms, and reputations. They get to walk away. They get to boycott. They get to fire you. That’s not tyranny–it’s freedom of association.
The Hypocrisy: “Cancel Culture for Thee, Not for Me”
This is where the mask slips. Conservatives mocked liberals as “snowflakes” for years, claiming cancel culture was a left-wing plot to silence dissent. But look at what’s happening now. After the assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sept 13, 2025), the same voices suddenly discovered their inner thought police.
Over sixty Americans–teachers, flight attendants, nurses, public employees–have faced suspensions or firings after online posts mocking Kirk’s death. This is gross. I don’t like it. I don’t want people with such dark hearts teaching kids. But now Trump, MAGA influencers, and outlets like Fox News are openly demanding lifetime bans, professional blacklists, even license revocations? This is… rich. For speech they don’t like? Speech Pam Bondi is now calling “hate speech”? Exactly the thing they claimed to oppose a month ago?
This hypocrisy isn’t new. The woke-right boycotted Bud Light over a trans influencer, targeted Disney for “woke-left” storylines, and cheered on book bans. When they do it, it’s “consumer choice.” When the left does it, it’s “cancel culture.” The truth? Both sides are just exercising association rights. The only fraud is pretending your tribe is exempt.
The Right of Association—A Forgotten Principle
Here’s where we need to get serious. The whole “cancel culture” debate collapses once you understand the right of association. It’s not some fringe concept–it’s baked into liberty itself.
Philosophical roots: John Locke argued you own yourself. That means you own your choices–who you work with, who you break bread with, who you boycott. Ayn Rand said it flatly: no one has the right to force you into associations you don’t want. John Stuart Mill, in On Liberty, insisted that while government must never crush opinion, society is free to frown, disapprove, or ostracize. This is not tyranny. It is the cost of community.
Constitutional roots: The word “association” never appears in the Constitution, but courts carved it out of the First Amendment’s protections. For example:
NAACP v. Alabama (1958): the state wanted civil rights membership lists. SCOTUS said no—that would kill free association.
Boy Scouts v. Dale (2000): the Scouts had the right to exclude a gay scoutmaster. Agree or not, the Court affirmed the principle: government can’t dictate who sits at your table.
Layer in the Ninth Amendment’s unenumerated rights and the Fourteenth’s due process clause, and you have a clear constitutional foundation.
Libertarian application: In practice, it’s simple. You can open a business that refuses service based on your beliefs. The state shouldn’t stop you. But the market may punish you–customers could boycott, employees may quit. That’s not cancellation. That’s freedom in action. Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado (2018) shows the tension: a baker refusing to make a gay wedding cake. The Court dodged, but the libertarian principle is clear: no one should be forced to bake a cake, and no one is forced to buy. Stated differently: My shop, my rules.
Hypocrisy kills credibility: This selective outrage over Kirk’s death is damning. Conservatives are now invoking the very principle they claimed to hate: demanding people lose jobs for speech. But here is the unvarnished truth: Turns out, they don’t despise “cancel culture.” They just despise consequences for themselves. Apparently, when the shoe is on the other foot, it should pinch.
Say What You Want, But Don’t Demand a Seat
Imagine a boardroom where you call your gay colleagues “faggots.” No government should arrest you. But your coworkers can resign, ostracize you, or fire your ass. That’s not “cancellation.” That’s voluntary disassociation. Rights are individual. No one has a right to force others to subsidize or tolerate them.
Same logic applies to Kirk. Celebrate his death if you want–I think you are disgusting and I wouldn’t want you anywhere near me. But, don’t be shocked when your employer decides you’re bad for business. Free speech lives. Association rights live. Government has no role.
Reclaiming the Principle
“Cancel culture” is a myth. It’s not a principle—it’s a partisan whine. If you’re against it, be against it everywhere. If you’re for it, admit it’s just freedom of association. What you can’t do is decry the woke-left while behaving exactly like them.
Liberty means taking the hits. It means standing by your words, and letting others do the same. If we actually believed in free societies, we’d defend the right to speak and the right to walk away–with no double standards, no tribal exceptions.
Anything less is just hypocrisy dressed up as principle. Anything less is just you contributing to chaos through inconsistency.
Anything less is just you, a political pawn.
Can we get back to libertarian consistency, please? Remember our jobs are to point out the insanity on the left and the right, not to become “The Right,” and wrong.
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Selective outrage reveals “cancel culture” as a rhetorical tool, not a consistent principle, making all y’all a bunch of mofo hypocrites of the highest order, and, deep down, you know it… and don’t care, and that, on top of being a political pawn, means you have no integrity…
In an era where political discourse is increasingly polarized, the term “cancel culture” has become a weaponized buzzword, often invoked by those on the right to decry what they perceive as unfair social or economic repercussions for controversial speech. However, this concept is fundamentally flawed—a construct peddled by propagandists to shield offensive or harmful rhetoric under the banner of “free speech,” while conveniently ignoring the counterbalancing principle of freedom of association. As a libertarian, I fully endorse the absolute right to free expression: governments should never censor or punish speech, no matter how distasteful. But true liberty also means individuals and private entities have the right to choose whom they associate with, support, or employ. “Cancel culture” isn’t a sinister plot; it’s the natural outcome of a free society where actions have voluntary, non-coercive consequences. To illustrate this, let’s examine the hypocrisy of those who once railed against it but now wield it themselves, particularly in the wake of recent events like the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
Free Speech Does Not Entail Freedom from Consequences
At its core, the First Amendment protects citizens from government infringement on speech. It does not, and should not, shield anyone from the private reactions of others. In a libertarian framework, this is rooted in property rights, voluntary exchange, and non-aggression. You own your words, but others own their time, money, and associations. If you express views that alienate customers, colleagues, or communities, they are free to withdraw their support—whether by boycotting a business, firing an employee, or shunning a public figure. This isn’t censorship; it’s the marketplace of ideas functioning as intended.
Consider historical precedents: In the 1950s, during the McCarthy era, private blacklisting of suspected communists was decried by many as an overreach, yet it was largely driven by voluntary decisions from studios and employers, not state mandates. Fast-forward to today, and similar dynamics play out without government involvement. For instance, when companies like Disney faced conservative-led boycotts over inclusive content, critics on the right celebrated it as “consumer choice.” Yet when progressive groups boycotted brands like Goya for political affiliations, the same voices labeled it “cancel culture.” This selective outrage reveals “cancel culture” as a rhetorical tool, not a consistent principle.
From a libertarian lens, these are all valid exercises of freedom. Economist Milton Friedman argued that in a free market, discrimination or association based on beliefs is permissible as long as it’s not enforced by law—though he noted markets often punish inefficiency, like bigotry that limits talent pools. Similarly, philosopher John Stuart Mill in On Liberty emphasized that while society cannot legally suppress opinions, it can impose social sanctions through ostracism or disapproval. True liberty thrives when individuals bear the personal costs of their expressions, fostering accountability without state intervention.
The Hypocrisy Exposed: From Victims to Perpetrators
The irony peaks when examining how conservatives, who have long positioned themselves as defenders against “woke” cancellation, now enthusiastically participate in it. For years, figures like Charlie Kirk himself lambasted “cancel culture” as a left-wing tyranny stifling debate. Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, relished provocative rhetoric and championed open discourse, often decrying firings or deplatformings as un-American. Yet following his tragic assassination on September 13, 2025, a wave of right-wing activists and politicians—including high-profile Trump allies—have demanded firings, investigations, and ostracism for anyone perceived as celebrating or mocking his death.
Over 60 Americans, including educators, airline workers, and public employees, have faced suspensions, terminations, or doxxing campaigns led by accounts like Libs of TikTok and coordinated conservative networks. President Trump and MAGA influencers, who spent years mocking “snowflake” liberals for sensitivity, now call for “lifetime bans” and license revocations over online posts deemed “hate speech.” This isn’t isolated; it’s part of a pattern. Conservatives boycotted Bud Light over a transgender influencer partnership, targeted Disney for “woke” policies, and pushed book bans in schools—actions they once attributed solely to the left.
Journalist Don Lemon highlighted this double standard, noting that while the right decries cancellation for “abhorrent” speech, they apply it selectively. As one commentator put it, conservatives don’t hate cancellation—they hate consequences for themselves. This hypocrisy undermines their credibility: if “cancel culture” is wrong, why embrace it when politically expedient? In the Kirk case, media outlets like Fox News and Axios report a “growing chorus” of conservatives targeting critics, even as they lionize Kirk as a free-speech martyr. It’s a textbook case of political tribalism overriding principle.
A Libertarian Example: Speech, Slurs, and Severed Ties
To make this concrete, consider a boardroom scenario: Imagine you’re a corporate executive who, in a heated debate, calls your gay fellow board members “faggots.” Under libertarian ideals, you have every right to utter those words—no government should arrest you or censor your expression. Free speech protects even the vilest opinions, as it must to safeguard all discourse.
However, your colleagues also have rights. They can resign, refuse to collaborate, or vote you out, citing a toxic environment that hinders productivity. The company, as a private entity, can terminate your contract if your behavior violates internal policies or alienates stakeholders. This isn’t “cancellation”—it’s freedom of association in action. As libertarian thinker Ayn Rand argued, rights are individual; no one is entitled to force others to endure or fund their presence. If the board “cancels” you by severing ties, that’s their prerogative, just as you’d be free to start a new venture with like-minded individuals.
This principle applies universally. When conservatives demanded boycotts of brands supporting LGBTQ+ rights, they exercised association rights. When progressives shun figures like J.K. Rowling for trans-related views, it’s the same. The Kirk backlash—firing teachers for showing assassination videos or mocking his death—follows suit, but the hypocrisy lies in pretending it’s different when they do it.
Conclusion: Reclaim True Liberty
“Cancel culture” is a myth designed to privilege one side’s speech while demonizing the other’s responses. In a libertarian society, we embrace both free expression and its voluntary repercussions, rejecting government overreach while allowing markets and communities to self-regulate. The recent hypocrisy surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death—where anti-cancel crusaders become cancel enforcers—exposes this as partisan gamesmanship, not principled defense. If we truly value liberty, we must defend association rights for all, even when it stings. Only then can we foster a society where ideas compete freely, without the crutch of bogus constructs.
The Right of Association:
The right of association, while not explicitly named in the U.S. Constitution, is a fundamental liberty derived from several constitutional principles and philosophical foundations, deeply rooted in the concept of individual autonomy. From a libertarian perspective, it emerges naturally from first principles of self-ownership and voluntary interaction, and it has been recognized through legal and historical developments. Here’s a clear and concise breakdown of its origins:
1. Philosophical Foundations
- Self-Ownership and Liberty: Libertarian thinkers like John Locke and Ayn Rand argue that individuals own themselves and their labor, implying the right to choose with whom they associate, work, or transact. Freedom of association is a logical extension of personal sovereignty—you’re free to form relationships or groups without coercion and equally free to abstain from them.
- Social Contract Theory: Philosophers like Rousseau and Locke emphasized voluntary agreements as the basis for societal organization. The right to associate (or not) reflects the individual’s ability to enter or exit social contracts, absent state interference.
- John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty: Mill argued that individuals should be free to form associations to pursue common goals, as long as they don’t harm others. He saw social sanctions (like ostracism) as a natural outcome of free choice, distinct from government coercion.
2. Constitutional Roots in the U.S.
The right of association is not explicitly stated in the Constitution but is inferred from several amendments, particularly in the Bill of Rights:
- First Amendment: The rights to free speech, assembly, and petition imply a broader right to associate for expressive or political purposes. The Supreme Court has recognized this in cases like NAACP v. Alabama (1958), where it held that forcing a group to disclose membership violated their associational rights, as it chilled free speech and assembly.
- Ninth Amendment: This amendment protects unenumerated rights retained by the people. Courts have interpreted freedom of association as one such right, inherent to individual liberty.
- Fourteenth Amendment: The Due Process Clause has been used to protect associational rights, particularly in private settings, by ensuring government does not unduly interfere with personal or group affiliations.
3. Legal Recognition
- Supreme Court Precedents: The right was explicitly articulated in cases like Boy Scouts of America v. Dale (2000), where the Court upheld the Boy Scouts’ right to exclude a gay scoutmaster, citing their freedom to associate (and exclude) based on shared values. Similarly, Roberts v. United States Jaycees (1984) balanced associational rights with anti-discrimination laws, affirming the right but allowing limited state regulation.
- Types of Association: Courts distinguish between expressive association (e.g., political or religious groups) and intimate association (e.g., personal relationships). Both are protected, though expressive association often receives stronger First Amendment scrutiny.
4. Libertarian Application
In a libertarian framework, the right of association is paramount because it respects individual choice in a free market. You can choose your friends, coworkers, or customers, just as others can refuse to engage with you. For example:
- A business owner can refuse service based on personal beliefs (subject to market consequences), as seen in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado (2018).
- Employees can quit or boycott a company whose values they reject, just as employers can fire workers whose actions harm the organization—both are exercises of associational freedom, not “cancellation.”
5. Hypocrisy in Practice
The “cancel culture” debate often ignores this right. When conservatives demand firings for speech celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death, they exercise associational freedom (e.g., boycotting or shunning), yet decry it when used against them. This selective application underscores that the issue isn’t association itself but the expectation of immunity from its consequences.
Conclusion
The right of association flows from the bedrock of individual liberty—philosophically from self-ownership, legally from constitutional protections, and practically from the voluntary nature of human interactions. It ensures you can call someone a slur, but they can choose not to work with you. In a free society, both are sacred, and neither should be curtailed by the state. The hypocrisy lies in demanding one right while dismissing the other, a contradiction libertarians reject by upholding both consistently.
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